JayG84

Hey guys. I'm having a lot of trouble figuring out the next chapter of my life. Right now I'm in limbo. I took a year off of work to focus on Self-Actualization and figure out where to go next in my life. I'm coming to the point where I have to make a decision, I'm running out of time and money to keep trying to figure it out. I'm dreading having to go back to work. I spent 15 years forming a career that I thought was safe and smart and that my family would approve of. I choose to go into a STEM field. It always interested me somewhat. I like to figure things out and understand how they work, but my passion was never in Science and Maths, I just did it because I figured I should. My passion has always been in understanding reality, the mind, and how people work. In my free time I love to read Philosophy and Psychology theories and I love to try to understand concepts of reality. I've always had this nagging feeling in the back of my mind that what I'm doing isn't going to fulfil me in my life. While I'm at work, I keep thinking of all the other stuff that I'd rather do with my life. Helping others, Art (I'm also a musician), Spirituality, etc. These are the things that truely inspire me. But I'm too scared to give up the career that I've built and start all over again. I feel like I'm too old to go back to school (or if school is really the path forward). It's too much money. Where would I live? What would my family think...etc etc etc. All these thoughts that are limiting me from doing what I actually enjoy in life. The last 5 years have been especially challenging. I've taken so much time off of work. I've done a lot of work on myself, I've changed many of my perspectives of the world. I feel like I've moved up in the spiral a lot, from Orange to Green and now moving into Yellow. I notice I can see things about reality that a lot of people cannot see. And I'd like to transfer that into a Tier 2 career of being an observer of reality instead of just living in it. I kind of feel like there is no going back. I've developed to a point of no return, almost like it's my duty to be of service to the rest of the world somehow. I have analysis and conceptual intelligence that I can apply to help society move up the spiral a little bit. But these limiting beliefs are so hard to overcome. No matter how hard I try I can't seem to "pull the trigger" so to speak. I'm at the point where it's "apply to schools" or "go back to work and accept your life the way it is". I just can't seem to make a decision. Are there other people here that are going through the same thing? Is there any advice from anyone who has gone through it? Any feedback would be much appreciated. Thanks ?

@mandyjw

This scene always gives me chills thinking about how we project our reality. "Building a dream from your memory is the easiest way to lose your grasp of what's real and what is a dream" - Cobb Our subconscious (Ego) quite literally builds this dream world, and if we build it from memories we will lose our true nature inside of patterns and beliefs and our reality will turn on us.

Yeah. You're right. I actually don't want to be King. Thanks for clearing it up. I'll keep contemplating ?? @Nahm @mandyjw I'll stop asking for McNuggets now. ?

That's a really good way of looking at it. ? I feel both. I like the idea of intuition being my guidence system, I just have to realize that if it doesn't bring me where I think it should, that's ok. But then what's the point of the LOA? It's a very misleading teaching, because what they are really saying is "If you want a million dollars, you should drop it, and then you'll be as happy as if you had a million dollars, and then it might come to you. Or not." which I totally agree with and was my understanding before LOA. But all this talk about manifesting pennies and stuff really messes with you...lol Right. I feels like you're just a piece in a chess game. To the whole game every piece is essential but it's possible that my human vehicle is a pawn in the game, and the LOA makes you feel like everyone can be the King. (Which might be true) ah...I don't know. This LOA stuff is throwing me in a loop...lol No "you" haven't, silly. Other people don't know that at all. Don't tell yourself that story. Right. I know this stuff isn't true. Just the old ego bubbling up again ?‍♂️

Great. Thanks. I have to keep the perspective that everything is a lesson. And I am experiencing this for a reason, and everything is pointing me towards truth. Sidenote. I keep hearing that you attract whatever vibration you hold. What is meant by this? What does this vibration look or feel like?

Lol. Great analogies. So all the stuff that Abraham Hicks and the like talk about is no different than all the other ego death teachings. It's all just shedding all the layers of beliefs and fears that open you up to the limitlessness of reality, and You or I as God can experience literaly anything if we are open to it? So there is no one path then, just an infinite number of forks in the road of which you can take the open road or the closed (fearful) road? What guides us? Intuition? I've tried to listen to my intuition in my life and have failed so many times. Other people seem to know before I do that things won't work out the way I naively thought they would. I don't know what to listen to anymore. The spiritual path is the only one I have found that seems to be guiding me somewhere good. I know this sounds ego-backlashy but I'm just new to the whole LOA concept and trying to integrate it. ?

What's that now? Who's lying?

Hahaha. Wow, that's a great example actually. Do we already know we are that fitness guru somewhere though? And we choose to have amnesia? Hahaha. Somebody's got some fire today. ?

Workin on it ? Will do, thanks ?

Yes I am one with God. There is only the Now. I look at it as, my life already happened, or rather it is happening Now. I'm not conscious of what it can be, but I can live it, or miss it depending on my fears. If I stay unconscious, I put blinders on to what could be. Do I see this right? Right. Everything is a lesson. Layers of the onion that I have to peal off to get to my true purpose and desire, which is happening Now? Btw, I started listening to these 2 teachers based on what you talked about in your videos, so thank you for opening that door, it's eye-opening. ??

Do you notice how everything in our Reality seams to function like a wave? Light is a wave Electricity is a wave Sound is a wave Quantum Fields are a wave Time is a wave People talk about spiritual frequencies...and frequencies are waves. Everything is push and pull, positive and negative, attract and oppose, up and down. Is this the fundemental nature of consciousness itself? When you are in an awakened state, have any of you been aware of consciousness itself functioning like a wave-like entity?

@upstream Great questions. ? I'm not sure of the answers either, but I'm trying to keep an open mind to the possiblilities of Time being essential. I used to just dismiss it as illusory, which is still true relatively, but now my thesis is that Consciousness and Time can't exist without each other from the absolute perspective. You said something bang on here: I think this is the missing link. That all dualities aren't just illusions, they're collapsable. Picture all these "frames of time" as a wave function (sine wave), jumping from one "reality" or "dimension" to another, or "creating", at a near infinite frequency. All Time in each dimension exists in a single Instant, a singularity, the smallest unit of Time possible, infinitely small but still Time, which cannot be perceived by anything that is not pure infinite consciousness or awareness. For any limited beings perception to occur, there has to be interaction between the infinite realities and dimensions, the rate at which this occurs is what we call "Relative" Time. Because it is relative to the Instant. But this does not mean that Time doesn't exist right? It just means that it's as infinite as Consciousness itself. God experiences infinite possibilities in a single Instant. Which is to say that it's an infinitely small unit of Time. Nonexistance, by definition, can't exist. Everything collapses into infinity. There is a literal Nothing outside of Infinity. Which is Everythingness and Anythingness. This is my understanding at this point of it anyways. ?

I would like to see Leo speak more about the nature of Time. It seems to be a fundemental aspect of Infinite Consciousness just like Intelligence or Love. Many people say that time is an illusion, but its only an illusion in the relative sense. Time must exist for existence itself to happen. An infinitesimal amount of "moments" strung together to give a "framerate" to our reality. If time didn't exist, we would be completely frozen in this instant and we could not have an experience. Have you guys had any insights into the nature of time? This video got me thinking about it and he brings up very good points:

I appreciate you man ?

Where more exactly do you think this fundamental nature is so that the act of changing the channels occurs? If you're not the character, nor the story, then within whose reality or where does the infinite consciousness happen? When I speak of "happening within reality", I speak of the relative. Infinite Consciousness happens at the Absolute Infinite level. I think that's all anyone ever does on this message board is confuse the relative and the infinite. We are all saying the same thing but you aren't assuming I'm speak from the Absolute perspective. My original question was just meant to make people re-question the notion of Time as a concept that can be viewed from the Absolute. I'm saying exactly this: And We don't disagree. You're just assuming that I'm speaking from a relative egoic form. Agreed, "objective reality time" is relative. I never said otherwise, but that's not what I'm talking about. But then you said: Which is also Relative time. Nevermind man. It's all good. 2 sides of the same coin. ✌️

I see what you did there ?

When I write Everything = Consciousness and Consciousness = Infinite Mind. I'm including my thoughts about it too. Everything means Everything and Anything. I'm not excluding Anything. And when I say Infinite Mind I mean Mind = Intelligence = Everything that Is = Constant Change and Impermanence = Time. Literally anything that could be. Is that not a wide enough perspective?

I'd be interested on your thoughts about this if you aren't busy. ?

So you're saying that Consciousness is greater than Infinite Mind? ? That’s half ‘true’ and half ‘false’. Could you elaborate please? ? ? I would guess that you would put Logic in there too from what I've seen in your videos? Well that's sort of what I just asked @Nahm

Right. I see that. Are there any other things in your experience that share the same quality as the infinite nature of Consciousness? So far I can see Consciousness = Awareness = Intelligence = Love = Time = Space. These can all be cassified as fundamental?

Well it's like saying "What if Consciousness vanished?" Where would it go. There's nothing outside Consciousness.

If Time vanished how could anything remain? What would that be? Without the mechanism of change, nothing can exist.

So pretty much you're saying Everything = Consciousness, and Consciousness = Everything. So dismissing Time and Space as illusory isn't giving it the respect it deserves? Would you say that everything is essentially "fundamental" because to exclude anything would cease to be infinite? So there is no hierarchy of importance to anything? Not Intelligence or Love or Time or Space? Do you disagree with the notion of "Fundamental aspects of consciousness" in general as Leo talks about? I question this often. Something about placing importance on something doesn't feel right to me.

That depends on what your definition of Space is. If you're thinking of Space as the Relative Spacetime Continuum, that is part of the story of You. And Time on that level is also part of the story. And in that way, it's an illusion. And both of these are relatively not important.