Jkris

Dear friends all are answering the first part of the question i. e about the enlightenment experience. Request to answer how it changed your life ???

I feeling or sense of me is an object with in the field of conciousness. It is this i feeling which is identity giving the idea that i am the body mind and a limited human being. The question who i am or to whom the thought is appearing gives no answer or silence as answer. So focusing on i feeling which is a seperate object in the field of conciousness is different from trying to hold on to silence isn't it???, ?

Good.

@Joseph Maynor???

@Highest I don't understand these terms nondual world and dual world. My theoretical understanding is either you can be in nothingness and cannot function from that state. So necessarily one has come out of nothingness to function in the world. ?

@Highest All that exist with in god is not god ? ego is not real and so how it can be god? Body is not god as its going to die some day. Mind(thoughts) are not god as it keep changing. So self alone is god. Rest all created are not god.

@How to be wise The pain exists and suffering too exists to the same body and mind as before enlightenment. Before enlightenment i am suffering and after enlightenment there is suffering.

Is conciousness truly love - NO. Conciousness is nothing.

@Highest where did you get this info about nisargadatta maharaj? I know he was a smoker. But he advocated strict moral code and devotion.

I will annihilate all lives and put an end to this suffering due to this purposeless creation.

@Ingit how to give up attachment to identity? ?

@Highest This is absolutely wrong. Conciousness is god. But as a ordinary human body and mind cannot create anything. Mind cannot create its reality. Creation remains a mystery. You are a powerless human body mind complex driven by a common conciousness aka god. No body can claim I am god. Who claims I am god is the stupid mind.

@Highest weed means canabis Or weed is different?

@Preetom @Preetom Thank you.

@Preetom First of all i don't understand the word or meaning of ego. My theoretical understanding is cessation of the seperate identity i feeling sense of me or sense of seperation and the realisation i am not the body mind but self. But the mind is going to function as usual in the same manner. All the worldly bodily problems are going to remain as usual. So how it is said self realisation is the end of suffering as long as the "self+body +mind" complex remains ? Also leo says self realisation or enlightenment is not self mastery? ? Can you pls explain how SR is end of suffering?

@FredFred There is something called prathipaksha bhavana meaning just bring the opposite thoughts and emotion to the current negative emotion. Its a yogic practice. May be some experts in the forum can throw some light on this.

@Leo Gura Dream is dream with in a dream ?

@Highest Have pleasurable experiences but don't identify with them? Can you please explain this elaborately giving examples. For example someone abuses. Immediately anger surfaces and the anger is experienced. So what does it mean don't get identified with the experience?.

@cetus56 Freud ?

@Tony 845 ???

@Highest can physcadelics cause ego death? It can give only short period exp of ego death. Once the medical effects goes the ego i sense returns. So what's the point of using physcadelics? ?

@Tony 845 kundalini as i heard from some people can give you beautiful biological meditative experiences but cannot take one to enlightenment. This is what i heard and i dont have any experience of kundalini meditation.

@Enlightenment cessation of all life ??????.

I am not sure why people are so obsessed with pro creation. All religions says dont have sex before marriage. Don't have sex outside marriage. Don't be promiscuous. Yet people are after sex.

@cetus56 The experience of the waking state? Which is always present in the waking period. Is it that? But not present during sleep ?