Ethankahn

Man, that guy acts as elusive as Bigfoot towards me ?

What’s up Leo. Hopefully my PMs haven’t annoyed you Lol

?I’m always down for some mystical analogies

@Joseph Maynor Great chatting with you as well! I always enjoy others’ perspectives so no worries, I’ll accept you no matter what

@Joseph Maynor Good! No problem then. So long as the acceptance is there. I’m not going to invalidate your way. Enjoy your Enlightenment ? or... “enjoy” Lol

@Joseph Maynor You must realize that what people aim for as Enlightenment can be different types of states. I’ve found that mathematics and logic can be relevant to Enlightenment but they’re not everything. Just like your transcendence of the Mind isn’t everything. It’s one method and one form of Enlightenment

@Joseph Maynor I didn’t say it needs to be integrated. I said they can be integrated as a response to your statement that such a thing is impossible.

@Joseph Maynor Anything is possible. Are you so sure you’ve tried hard enough to reconcile these varying perspectives?

@Joseph Maynor What’s wrong with metaphysics? I accept all perspectives.

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@Joseph Maynor Correct. Being just is. Because it has no beginning. If you look closely, our views can be unified. That’s what I’m pointing at

@Joseph Maynor Understandable. Nobody really feels inclined to call emptiness or groundlessness a state. As for me, rather than saying Infinity is a state, I say it’s State itself (because that includes all states within it). There’s a nice Zen riddle ? “The only “state” that is no particular state is State itself” or “The only “form” that has no particular form is Form itself”

Gotcha. So I see why logic doesn’t fit into your “framework.” You’re referring to a groundless state that can never be fully cognized (cause it’s groundless).

@Joseph Maynor Yes that’s interesting. I am curious though. I know, with your perspective, you’re always coming from this state of pure empty Awareness. Would you be against calling that a form of understanding?

It’s possible to tie logic into Truth. Nonduality leaves nothing out, including logic. It’s just that the logic will be a more total sense rather than just human common sense