Zigzag Idiot

Great addition! I've been enjoying them,,,, ?

@Marc Schinkel Glad you liked it! My internet connection at home has been out at the same time I'm trying to activate a new I phone which won't let me into it. I've had chicken and egg problems,,,, very frustrating. I hope it's somewhat resolved. Quite frustrating.

?‍♂️? You can see I'm partial to Coleman Barks reading ?

Out beyond ideas of wrong doing and right doing, there is a field. I'll meet you there When the soul lies down in that grass the world is too full to talk about

@ValiantSalvatore I never really understood his quadrant map. Most of what I've learned about Spiral Dynamics is through Wilber audio and video though. I called it a lynchpin in how it opened up my understanding when It applied to rationality, conventional stage orange people and their dismissal of the mystical experience because transrational in their eyes looks the same as prerational. That's a part of how I've experienced it also.. In green I did the opposite of that and elevated some prerational things into transrational profundities. In working on myself have let some of these spiritual ego structures dissolve or play themselves out, mostly This seems layered. Still observing at times,,,

I liked a part of one of Wilber's comments in the above video - " the brighter the light, the darker the shadow" The Pre-Trans Fallacy A core lynchpin concept in Integral psychology.

A Gurdjieff quote came to mind It is better to be temporarily selfish than never to be just. Only conscious suffering is of value. Man is given a limited quantity of experiences; being economical with them lengthens his life.

@mandyjw Thank you! I'll put a Ted Nottingham talk about the Gospel of Thomas below. Many contemporary Christians refer to Jesus as "Yeshua" as a lot of you will already be aware of.

I found this ACIM website recently. Just did a search on one of its much used terms - the special relationship . In addition to the Patriarchal language, this could be offensive to some but that's not my intent. Reason also for not adding it to other threads. Basically it applies to romantic love. T-16.VI.1. The search for the special relationship is the sign that you equate yourself with the ego and not with God. 2 For the special relationship has value only to the ego. 3 To the ego, unless a relationship has special value it has no meaning, for it perceives all love as special. 4 Yet this cannot be natural, for it is unlike the relationship of God and His Son, and all relationships that are unlike this one must be unnatural. 5 For God created love as He would have it be, and gave it as it is. 6 Love has no meaning except as its Creator defined it by His Will. 7 It is impossible to define it otherwise and understand it. T-16.VI.2. Love is freedom. 2 To look for it by placing yourself in bondage is to separate yourself from it. 3 For the Love of God, no longer seek for union in separation, nor for freedom in bondage! 4 As you release, so will you be released. 5 Forget this not, or Love will be unable to find you and comfort you. T-16.VI.3. There is a way in which the Holy Spirit asks your help, if you would have His. 2 The holy instant is His most helpful aid in protecting you from the attraction of guilt, the real lure in the special relationship. 3 You do not recognize that this is its real appeal, for the ego has taught you that freedom lies in it. 4 Yet the closer you look at the special relationship, the more apparent it becomes that it must foster guilt and therefore must imprison. https://acourseinmiraclesnow.com/

@Marks199 You'll be completely psychologically integrated and have a big grin about it!

@Keyhole I agree. Confusion and twisted perception abounds.

Many contemporary mystics study ACIM - A COURSE IN MIRACLES. It's channeled material. It dovetails also in many ways with today's growing Christian Contemplative movement. The following is a part of the preface of ACIM written in 1977. The first two parts—How It Came; What It Is—Helen Schucman wrote herself; the final part—What It Says—was written by the process of inner dictation described in the Preface. How It Came A Course in Miracles began with the sudden decision of two people to join in a common goal. Their names were Helen Schucman and William Thetford, Professors of Medical Psychology at Columbia University’s College of Physicians and Surgeons in New York City. It does not matter who they were, except that the story shows that with God all things are possible. They were anything but spiritual. Their relationship with each other was difficult and often strained, and they were concerned with personal and professional acceptance and status. In general, they had considerable investment in the values of the world. Their lives were hardly in accord with anything that the Course advocates. Helen, the one who received the material, describes herself: Psychologist, educator, conservative in theory and atheistic in belief, I was working in a prestigious and highly academic setting. And then something happened that triggered a chain of events I could never have predicted. The head of my department unexpectedly announced that he was tired of the angry and aggressive feelings our attitudes reflected, and concluded that “there must be another way.” As if on cue, I agreed to help him find it. Apparently this Course is the other way. Although their intention was serious, they had great difficulty in starting out on their joint venture. But they had given the Holy Spirit the “little willingness” that, as the Course itself was to emphasize again and again, is sufficient to enable Him to use any situation for His purposes and provide it with His power. To continue Helen’s first-person account: Three startling months preceded the actual writing, during which time Bill suggested that I write down the highly symbolic dreams and descriptions of the strange images that were coming to me. Although I had grown more accustomed to the unexpected by that time, I was still very surprised when I wrote, “This is a course in miracles.” That was my introduction to the Voice. It made no sound, but seemed to be giving me a kind of rapid, inner dictation which I took down in a shorthand notebook. The writing was never automatic. It could be interrupted at any time and later picked up again. It made me very uncomfortable, but it never seriously occurred to me to stop. It seemed to be a special assignment I had somehow, somewhere agreed to complete. It represented a truly collaborative venture between Bill and myself, and much of its significance, I am sure, lies in that. I would take down what the Voice “said” and read it to him the next day, and he typed it from my dictation. I expect he had his special assignment, too. Without his encouragement and support I would never have been able to fulfil mine. The whole process took about seven years. The Text came first, then the Workbook for Students, and finally the Manual for Teachers. Only a few minor changes have been made. Chapter titles and subheadings have been inserted in the Text, and some of the more personal references that occurred at the beginning have been omitted. Otherwise the material is substantially unchanged. The names of the collaborators in the recording of the Course do not appear on the cover because the Course can and should stand on its own. It is not intended to become the basis for another cult. Its only purpose is to provide a way in which some people will be able to find their own Internal Teacher. Below is an overview of what it says.

I'm excited over the High Consciousness Resources! In a couple of online Courses I've taken concerning Self Inquiry and Christian mysticism there were Resourse rooms. To have stricter Moderators will insure higher quality and less, speculating, rude behavior, emoting, etc,,,,, I bet this will draw back 'veterans' who have moved on.

Just half way through Leo's last video. It's good and yes I am biased. '"Vested interest" was a potent term for me years ago. One of the first encounters with this line of thought earlier in life was seeing a part of my own vested interest. Or the idea of it. Naturally I saw this in others first. Present day, I'm still biased! I feel a little heavy. Maybe a little bit emotionally triggered from physical tiredness. Yet still to do evening meditation. Between writing this above earlier and perhaps tiredness, triggered some inner considering with me this afternoon. Oh yeah, also Sunday family dinner. I don't feel alone. This last one, like holidays, seems to get at many of us at times,,,,,

Catching what I can bit by bit. One fire, many skillets. ///////////////////////////////////////// Abbreviated version: Conscious Love - If you love someone/something set them free. Romantic Love - If they/it don't come back, hunt them down and shoot them/it.

@khalifa I've never had 5 meo or a bad trip from one. I would put @Nahm 's advice ahead of mine.

I'm glad that some of what I wrote may have been a help. I respect your Journaling bits about everything. The good and bad and things in between. Besides helping your own integration, it helps others deal with their shadow elements. Thank you for sharing.

Not meaning to oppose others but I think 1 to 2 Xanax, some comfort food and maybe watching the three stooges or anything you think would help this break worry spell and anxiety cycle. Just my opinion. Good luck. Also reciting the Jesus Prayer or a version thereof - "Christ have mercy on me" or simply lay on the bed chant singing the word "Love". One time years ago chanting the word love over and over dramatically brought me out of a terrible condition.

8- 9-2019 44. Coming to meet "Coming to meet" refers to the Cosmic Principle that it is attraction which draws complementary aspects together. It does so in its own time, without the need for pressure or contriving. When allowed to take its time and natural course, everything matures and completes itself in the best way possible. All of this occurs in the atomic realm, through transformation, creating a unity that endures. Just a small piece of the commentary from today's reading. Yesterday was was one of the most interesting days of this life. Yesterday's reading was 38 Separating/ Opposition changing lines 3 and 6 resulting in a second hexagram of 14. Possession IN Great Measure

Psychedelic trips can dredge up a lot of trivia. It's no wonder Im twisted when looking at what partiality contributed to my conditioning. Popeye with his glorifying addictive behaviors. Sim Pickens colloquial hyperbole and Captain Kangaroo's eccentricity. The list goes on,,,,,

@DrewNows This is great! You shared this with me somewhere I'm pretty sure, I forgot where. Wish I hadn't waited so long to start watching it. Just halfway into it,,,,

Beautiful!

This last post caused me to go back and take a look at the beginning of your Journal which apparently I hadn't done. There is so much more about you I didn't know. Congratulations on the internship! I'm happy for you.

Beautiful!