Inliytened1

Consciousness is fundamental. It is the substrate of reality. So it doesn't imply duality it incorporates it. Awaken and you will become directly aware of this.

He was trolling.

Let's be honest. While highly intelligent, I find the simple fact that you hold no worldview troublesome. Troublesome from the standpoint that I can't have a reasonable dialague with you because your level of development is far below me. That's not a knock. But I'm in my fifties and your probably in your what - teens or early twenties. So if you want to hold a metaphysical dialogue with me then you might want to have at least established a worldview.

Yes but the focus itself is God...you see? You have a sense of self - and a collection of memories...that's what makes you what you are - but if your consciousness should expand it would blow this out - and you would be Infinite. So what was it but a change in state? Consciousness itself was always there. That's what you are.

Powerful - it gave me the bliss of enlightenment

Well that's what I was saying.

Of course. That's called living the dream. Do I seem like I don't? Afterall, I'm engaging now with you, yes? I wish that was true. But there cannot be anything independent of consciousness. If you just sit and contemplate it for a minute you would realize its absolutely absurd. Matter thats independent of consciousness. It's not even remotely possible- because everything is consciousness. This should be completely obvious to people - but it's not and that fact truly baffles me.

@Breakingthewall Yeah I get it. But also you have to remember even the ego is just God in a state of consciousness. God is a tautology. It's true no matter what form it takes . You can't go wrong about One thing or Infinity. The part is also the whole and the whole is also the part. It cannot escape itself.

@ivankiss Sit in meditation for weeks.

You're right actually. Yet it's still also God. It's paradoxical. And its paradoxical by design. But yes I was late

Before you do - I really would like to know your ultimate position. Are you saying we just shouldn't use the word God - or that we are indeed separate from God? Don't bow out now - it's just getting Interesting

Ergo sum.

Yes but if I told you reality was atoms or a giant atom we would have a problem with that.

I get you. But you can actually become direct Consciousness. Right now direct consciousness is the object and you are still the subject talking about direct consciousness. But if you actually became direct consciousness (became one with it) you would BE pure consciousness or in another words, God. You wouldn't label it you would be too busy being it.

Precisely. Process of elimination.

And what is Consciousness but God? It's just a word salad.

Had to give him props.

Well what's the difference between being God realized and not God realized? You're still God either way

Now you just need to wake up. For christ sake - please do. It will be a huge relief for all of us - especially @Yimpa

@Yimpa Alicia keys really? Lol.

They are concepts. That was actually the whole key to enlightenment for me personally- because I identified with a soul. When I had the epiphany that a soul was a thought- enlightenment dawned. Just food for thought.

Ultimately you have to face your own Aloneness as God. All others are part of your own mind as God.

Enlightenment is Absolute. You won't have any doubt. There won't be a you. You will be the Absolute. It's a miracle.

I wouldn't lie.

And what exactly was said? At this point with your level of logical deduction im afraid I've become lost in the frey. But I'm sure you will be right there to rescue me and set me straight.