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I couldn't find what @tsukis original post above but well said @tsuki you nailed it about people taking these teachings as beliefs. I have been trying to say that for almost a year on the forum and it is like trying to run up a never ending hill. It's futile. Until people do the work and have the life exp. Truth will remain dogma to them.

@tsuki. This is for both you and Leo - following and leading is a duality. Dont fall into that trap. Just because one participates in this forum does not mean they are following anyone. This is all relative. If you own your own business then you can say people who work for your company follow you. But this again is relative. Don't confuse being on this forum with being a follower. In Truth there is no such thing unless you create that yourself. Truth is Truth itself. It's not anyone's teachings. No one owns it. It just is itself. So the realization of Truth is bigger, much bigger than anything else as it is prior to anything else. People here have to realize that Oneness isn't some greeny thing about us all being One. It is literal. I literally am Leo. I am tsuki. Its just one thing. When you actually realize this it will shock you. Because you don't know it at that point - you ARE it.

He is alive in you haha. Osho = Love = Reality = you .....Isness baby.

Haha paradoxically the entire definition of suffering is relative. Suffering and non-suffering are dualities. That's why pure Being is nirvana.

@Jkris its part of being in this finite form and dwelling in duality. It is reduced after awakening in many aspects and the more conscious one becomes pre and post awakening the less they will suffer because they are no longer slave to the ego. So one can attain a much more full state or awareness which is liberating. Ultimate liberation IMO is the full dissolution of the ego and the return to non-duality...nirvana.

@rnd it's beyond words.

Once you let it go you realize it no longer exists. Consciousness is a hell of a thing. It only exists in your direct experience.

@happysad Work on aligning yourself with Truth. Believe it or not one can do this without doing direct spiritual techniques. You are God in a finite form. But start being True to this finite form you are in. Demonstrate honesty, love and selflessness in your life. Take good care of this form you are in - get your nutrition in order, hit the gym. In other words begin purifying yourself of your defilements. Cleanup unhealthy addictions, etc etc. Aligning with Truth will improve your life in so many ways. Then - when the time is right for you, add the spiritial practices and it will all come together for you. Afterall, you are God - you just don't know it directly yet But you have an eternity to find out.

Mystical experiences cannot be grasped with language. And they cannot be grasped with the human, finite mind. Yet we still conceptualize the actuality of our Mystical experience after they have occured. What once was actual is now but a conceptual memory in the "brain". So in your best conceptual words please, if you will, describe what your mystical experience felt like. Note: we know Truth cannot be captured. We are simply taking what was actuality and describing it now as a concept.

@Farnaby you are here on this forum for a reason. It's your intuition. Do the work. We cannot do it for you But if you do the work you can discover Truth for yourself.

Love you

@Natasha So sorry to hear about your loss. i am sure he was a beautiful loving soul and seems so from the cute picture. The way i would cope is through tears of pure Love. And knowing that he still lives. He lives within you. He will live on forever in you. Take heart in that. I know this sounds like something out of the Lion King. But there is a lot of wisdom to be found from that movie. I balled watching it again in theaters But he lives within you.

Jeesh and i take it you want enlightenment on a platter too. Anything else we can get you?

@Farnaby You won't grasp it as a concept because you are a concept. You have to go beyond that. The finite cannot grasp the infinite. You must become Truth itself. You must become Infinite. You ARE Truth itself. That "thing" is you. But this will take an awakening.

@Shaun way to go bro! It is life experience that will bring you enlightenment.

@Mu_ its a strange loop. Something that is pure everything already has to have some way to dumb itself down to know itself. Its so Infinite that it comes full circle.

Truth is not Leo's teachings Leo's teachings are Truth. Truth is itself. Be sure to know the difference.

It is true that from your perspective you can't directly confirm other perspectives - thats is part of the design of being limited. If you could you wouldn't be limited!!! As God you can confirm you are being all of them simultaneously.

No reality is paradoxical. From Gods perspective you imagine all. You are alone from that perspective. But God is all limited consciousness as well , simultaneously. Solipsism states only your limited perspective is real. The truth is that you are a partition of Consciousness, but other partitions exist. But as God you are being them all as well as your own. So its only Solipsism as God. Which isn't what Solipsism is according to the definition.

Correct up until the self reference problem. Be careful not to conflate formlessness with form. Only form can experience defilements. The formless has the self reference problem - pure isness cannot know itself - thus must then create form. Indeed they are One but broken down they are divided.

@Raptorsin7 you are very close. You have to become directly conscious that its not "your"awareness. That still implies a subject or an I. You fucking ARE awareness. And its nothing. Its nowhere. Its formless. You are the substrate of all of reality. That's what you ARE. And when that clicks it will be an epiphany thats so completely total that it will be a direct experience of Being simultaneously. You will become awareness itself. Otherwise you are still understanding it as a subject. This must collapse. It will happen for you - you are close but you are still probing it as a finite subject.

@Raptorsin7 gotchya. So what does your your understanding tell you in concept about no self? What does it tell you are in Truth? Notice that you realize that you can't identify yourself so you default to this feeling behind your eyes.

@Raptorsin7 do you still believe you are an entity behind the eyes? If you do - where is that entity?

@ROOBIO he was a great version of you