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Regarding specifically the ego -- good points by all. @VeganAwake yes your point about waking up and rendering the ego harmless is a good one. It is paradoxical because as @Highest states - the ego is still part of God and should be loved. God creates the separate self to experience itself through - and it creates all of duality to experience itself through. This should not be overlooked. But this separate self, in order to be separate, must be finite. A finite thing has to survive as a self. Without a sense of self you would be dead. This means the self needs to be selfish to survive. The ego tends to run away with this - seeking pleasure outside itself - but when you awaken to your true nature you see through this because you're consciousness goes through the roof. You go meta on the ego and can be content with just being. Being is what you are fundamentally. This is wisdom. You can still experience yourself plus you filter out all the negative aspects of the ego. Purification.

@DLH very nice!

@LfcCharlie4 thanks for taking the time to shed the light on the matter - im sure it will be quite helpful to everyone. ?❤

Just that it is imaginary. There is nothing physically separating anything. Consciousness fundamentally is mind stuff - that's why the fact that anything exists at all is miraculous. That Infinity is infinity is a miracle. Remember something infinite is EVERYTHING. That includes nothing. Nothing permeates through everything, yanking the ground out from under it and rendering it a dream. So it must imagine separation.

You and the Universe are one and the same. You just haven't had a radical shift in consciousness yet to become conscious of that. Its OK.

Mystical experiences. Non-dual states of consciousness. Look at the chart you laid out. Mystical experiences that revealed to me the nature of all of reality instantaneously. Mystical experiences that revealed that i am pure consciousness / Infinity. Oneness realization. By becoming the Absolute / collapsing the self into Being. Must i go on?

They are not offending me, but it needs to be pointed out so that others reading your posts are not mislead. By no others i am speaking from the Absolute perspective. There is nothing wrong with quoting great masters - but do you have thoughts of your own on such matters? You see, ultimately you can become conscious that you are your own authority, and the need to quote others really goes away, because you are your own authority and can think for yourself.

This is not my direct experience. I had massive awakenings just days into meditation. So it is very relative to the individual.

The analogy of a virtual partition in consciousness is a good one. Consciousness partitions itself. But the separation is virtual. Within your partition, you feel separate. As you should be. From your partition or perspective, you are. That is the whole point of partitioning in the first place. That's a feature. But it is possible as you know, to hack your own partition (mysticism) and access the whole hard drive. And then you realize its all one drive. For the partition who hasn't done this yet, he has no idea that the partitions are virtual.

This very question really bothered me ever since i was a kid. It was only after i found spirituality that the question could finally be answered. You see, if you are coming from the materialist paradigm, then this question should bother you. If it doesn't you are probably never gonna have a chance at ever awakening. Because if there was an objective, physical reality, then how could something exist if no one is there to be conscious of it? The materialist would chalk it up to "oh well, its just beyond our understanding. Its happening without anyone seeing it and that's that. God sees it from the clouds. Etc etc." But when you discover that reality is a mind - it is consciousness - then it all makes sense. And the tree and the sound exist as pure consciousness - pure potentiality. It only collapses into a tree when being observed. A subject / object duality is created What's really going on is pure being. The raw data, sights and sounds are there when not being "perceived" or "heard", existing as Being. Leo's video on what is perception can really help clear this up for you. Quantum mechanics revealed this as well. That is why if you are actually able to collapse yourself into Being, you will literally cease to exist as you. You will be Being! You've collapsed the subject/object duality.

There is no need to resort to name calling. Please keep the posts free of personal attacks.

You know not what you speak. You are confusing what you have heard (concept) for actuality - and that is dogma. it is clear from this, and the time you spend quoting others, that you still have a long way to go for your own awakening. You can realize one day that you no longer need to quote others because there will be no others.

Yes. And you will notice that nothing bothers you anymore. If a truck cuts you off on the highway, nearly killing you, you will experience it. You will accept it. And you will move on. The egos desire to lash out at the truck driver has dissolved. Nothing phases you anymore. There is only Love and compassion.

@Adodd what type of meditation are you doing? Remember, self inquiry is a type of meditation. So is the do nothing, no thought. So is contemplation. So is concentration - which in a way merges with do nothing, but here you are focusing in on one thing in your direct experience. If you are only doing one particular type, then i suggest to switch it up. Work your way to at least 30 min as well.

@TheAvatarState yeah...i have to go back and watch that again. But yeah, the word that came to mind over and over again when i had my awakenings was simply - its a miracle. Its a miracle on so many levels. And you are the miracle.

Indeed it does. What is presently actual for you is what is true for you. That is the distinction between actuality and concept. The words anyone speaks to you (including me) are concepts. It is second order. Actuality is first order. Do not mistake concept for actuality. Doing so turns it into dogma. Be open minded that concept may or may not be pointing to something that can become actual for you. But the only way for anything to become actual for you is to actualize it in your direct experience. Meditation can be key here because it connects you directly with what is actual.

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@Nahm ❤?

@assx95 that's because you have yet to realize your truest nature. You're purest form - the formless. As formlessness, pure being - you are unable to know yourself because you are prior to knowing. You must create a separate "knower" first. You are the infinite shapeshifter. Shapeshifting into a form to experience yourself through that form. Thus, experience is its own meaning. So, quite simply, just experience.

I'm not discouraging meditation at all - by no means. But for me personally it happened via meditation within days. And i see a lot of people on here having meditated for years and haven't had an awakening. They might understand everything conceptually - but they haven't had mystical experiences. If you are getting into years then if it were me i would start leveraging any and all tools i had at my disposal.

@Consept most spiritual teachers who are awakened are spiritually gifted. So meditation didn't take them long at all - and some may have had spontaneous mystical experiences without doing anything. Just sitting there. So they would never look into them. But this isn't the norm for the average Joe from what we can gather.

There are different levels of consciousness. A non-dual state of consciousness is a different level. It is pure Being - mystical, divine, infinite and blissful. It is also frozen as it outside time and space. Time and space are imaginary. Your finite mind collapses into Universal Mind. The finger becomes the hand. The finger is the hand, but it awakens to being the hand. And yes it is often accomplished via stillness of the mind.

You don't know that. He is asking existential questions. Yes, ultimately you must transcend concept - but there is nothing wrong with grasping it conceptually. For some that is all they will ever hit.

It is nothing. This is it right here. You're in it. This is nothing. Not only are you in it you are it.

@SgtPepper well said. Everything is an illusion in the sense that it is mindstuff and appears physical and has a ground. But physical is within mind stuff. Mind stuff is all there is - so illusion IS reality. Then you have the illusion of the ego. You can become conscious that your true nature is consciousness imagining you are ego. This allows you to see through the ego and accept what is instead of resisting Truth all the time which is what the ego always wants to do. Because it is a self. It is selfish. Consciousness is selfless. In that way you accept everything - and suffering diminishes. Does it vanish completely? Probably not. Because while the story of the self exists it has to survive. And survival is suffering. But we can still tame the ego through wisdom and acceptance of what is and through that attain liberation.