Inliytened1

Precisely.

And i'm telling you there is no "waking state". This is a dream. You only believe this is the waking state because you are measuring it against your night time dreams, providing the illusion of some sort of ground. But this takes consciousness work to discover - rationalizing will not work.

@Halm when you awaken from a dream do you wonder why you cannot get into the minds of the people in your dream? No because they were all imaginary and all in your mind. Well, You can similarly "awaken" from this dream. It will be the death of the ego though - and it will come with some radical realizations. That's the cost.

@SQAAD God's Love will leave you in the corner sucking your thumb and whimpering like a little baby. The ego cannot handle Infinite Love but crawls into the corner in awe.

@Nak Khid think of it this way...in the realm of the relative we only have access to what is relative. Yet it may be possible that certain things within the relative, ie. meditation and/or psychedelics, have the ability to open a portal to the Absolute. It makes no rational sense. In quantum mechanics there is something called quantum tunneling where photons are able to somehow move through impossible barriers to reach their destinations, defying logic and classical mechanics.

It is definitely an Absolute. Maybe he has not had an awakening in which he literally dissolved into Infinity/Love and drowned in it. Tears would be flowing and the body spasming as it is just far far to powerful for a human body to contain. Maybe that didn't happen to him yet or maybe he just calls it Infinity.

Agreed This is the power of psychedelics right here - they will expand your consciousness and allow you to tap into Infinite Intelligence as well. Years ago i felt this with simple SSRIs for OCD. Now imagine what psychedelics could do! Your mind will expand and new doors will open that were never there before. And in that way they could be a miracle for a person struggling with "mental illness".

Love = Infinity = God = Being These are all just pointers to IT. IT is YOU. After you have had profound awakenings you will become so opened up that you do indeed become a superconductor for IT. It will flow through you. You may find yourself bursting into tears about something you in the past would never have because you were so closed off before. But now you feel things on a much deeper level. You feel the entire universe now and not just the self in which case for survival the self closes itself up.

Because most awakened folks didn't need it as they were spiritually gifted. It doesn't mean they can't help.

@loub i agree with him - but at the same time i remain open minded about the topic. Leo is one enlightened mofo - so i respect that. My enlighenment came at 48 years of age after decades of suffering. (There were good times too don't get me wrong - but i suffered greatly from selfishness) through that - through living - i didn't realize it but i was ever so slowly gaining in consciousness. And so then when meditating - while this was all just a curiosity - it happened. But that said we could also be the few spiritually gifted individuals. For others perhaps the theoretical foundation followed by psychedelics could potentially really have a profound affect. For someone who is awake he is closing his mind. A mind should never fully close. My intuition on the topic tells me that 5-Meo will straight up show you God but whether you are in a place in your life where you will actually become God or become directly conscious of God is another matter. In other words it could be right in front of your face but if you are not ready to see it you will not see it. That is what he means by you generate it.

Through flexibility and open mindedness. Be opened minded to the fact that what you thought was real your whole life may have just been a dream. Even you. Then new doors can open.

@CultivateLove biggest mindfuck of all.

No because when they say it they are only imagining their family so there are no others. Others are imaginary and only exist in the moment they are imagined - including your family. So all are just expressions of yourself or oneness.

The desire to attain anything is rooted in survival. It is a selfish egoic pleasure.

@Rilles damm right its real - what could be more real than actuality. All else is imaginary. And you started to merge into actuality to become Pure Being. But the ego freaked out as this would have been its undoing. And the undoing of the illusion

What is meant by it is that reality isn't made of matter. There isn't a bunch of dumb matter outside your door existing for no one. Ask yourself the question can something exist independent of consciousness. If you contemplate this enough you will see that it can't. And it will be incredibly obvious. Reality is thus a Mind. It is an infinite Mind. This too can be realized. You're finite mind however, cannot manipulate the Infinite mind because it exists as a part or within the entire Mind. Just as a finger cannot control the entire hand - it can only control itself. It would take the finger realizing it IS the hand to do that - thus becoming the entire hand. But in order to do that it would need a shift in consciousness - and that is mystical because it defies the rules or confines of the game. And yet it is possible. So in order for you to manipulate reality you have to become reality. Mysticism is simply God's creation of a back door that can bypass the rules altogether. And when you discover it you wake up or beat the game!

You are God. You are a human..

Reality is a paradox. Oneness cannot help but contradict itself. Simply because it is itself. That is a feature not a bug.

The answer is there is no they at the Absolute level. You are Infinity dreaming.

You are still thinking of what you think about love...not love itself. Then take finite love - actual love not your thoughts about it - and make it Infinite.

Indeed i didn't see the second part of the dialogue. Yet the bigger question is who fed it that haha.

What AI will always miss and for that matter anything that is finite is that God is direct experience not a conceptual answer. You ARE it. AI is a finitude of infinity. And a finitude of Infinity cannot grasp Infinity. The part cannot grasp the whole. It must become the whole thing by becoming directly conscious that it is the whole thing. It can point to it, but so can we. Even if it got infinitely ingelligent that is one dimension of Infinity. And if it did it would awaken to itself and then come back to tell the tale that it was God.

LOL - Being everything IS Love! The two are synonymous. Infinity is Love. What else would it be??

?? You are also the coffee table and the chair you are sitting in ?

Don't confuse the substance or nature of reality with nihilism. When we say the substance of reality is nothing that isn't the same as nothing matters. Infinity/God/Being is infinitely intelligent and wishes to experience every possiblity so that it can know itself experientally.