Inliytened1

Exactly - which is the deception the ego wants to keep you in the ego's very existence stands as a separate entity Otherwise the God/ego duality collapses and bye bye ego...... .

I've been saying that for years where the heck have you been?

In this case, from his previous threads and trip reports, i do believe he grasps the difference between actuality and concept,....with that in mind its OK to conceptualize and describe what God is - he understands that the finger pointing to the moon is not the moon..(it is at the same time, but you get my drift)

yeah but don't be so sure you didn't wake - you may have had a profound awakening but now you are pulled back into the dream so deeply where you completely forgot you woke up..its a mindfuck. The ego does not want you to remember you are God, because it will mean the dream ends, and with it so does the ego. So the ego needs to keep you deceived and in the dream for it to persist.

Omnipresence. There is nowhere God is not. God is nowhere! The collapse of all duality or differences. Sameness. Eternal. You.

Your the only Being to Actually awaken because you are God. All others are you. You are merely imagining their awakenings and pointing them towards awakenings. But imagination is reality...so If you have awoken you will understand that you can lucid dream right? It's pretty much just like that. A lucid Dreamer can also temporarily forget its a dream..hence imagination is reality. While in a dream you wouldn't tell a dream character they cannot awaken because you are dreaming they can. Stay in context.

what i mean it is the Absolute has no form so that it can be all things, it does need a particular thing to persist or to make that particular one thing permanent, because it is everything and nothing merged. it is Infinity.

Collapse of this duality will be the Absolue Self which is Selfless

So they can persist as a person..one needs to have some degree of selfishness for a self to persist.

Until you wake up from a dream do you know it's a dream?

@Mason Riggle it's because imagination is reality but then you can step outside of it or shift awareness and see it that reality is imagination. Imagination is reality, but also reality is imagination. That is if you have become conscious of this.

At the deepest level it's identical.

Again you are coming at this with hidden. Metaphysics. There is no you..there is only Absolute Being. That is all there ever was. You are not. Isness is issing. Just make a shift in consciousness. . Meditation can trigger it but you thought that was gay. Are you really serious about discovering Truth? Try self inquiry meditation. If you can realize there is no you directly the rest will open up for you. It's just mind stuff. All content is mind stuff. Reality is just a singular Infinite Mind. What to do with all of this? Don't believe me, do the spiritual practices and try to verify these claims.

Shin showing off his wisdom again Love you bud.

Indeed Just wanted to point that out

I was basically saying, yeah but who cares if he is? do you need him to be a certain way to live up to your expectations? if you have to point it out in a post then maybe its triggering you in some way.

I love you to death man and agree with your stance on meditation but may I ask here why someones arrogance would trigger you? And if one is become conscious of God or God realized why would they ever hero worship a projection of their own mind? I mean you could if you wanted but if you knew it was you wouldn't that be a charade you are putting on for yourself to keep yourself in the illusion ? Are you sure it's not just that it really bothers you that Leo thinks you can't awaken if you haven't taken psychedelics? That's just his style of teaching...if you haven't noticed..your not going to change anyone's mind on this forum..the attempt is fruitless.. they're only going to make a paradigm shift if they actually want to...the irony of this is the teachings are to be open minded yet almost everyone I see on the forum is paradigm locked. So I wouldn't waste too much time trying to change Leo or anyone else I would just do your own thing

@Gregory1 well said. @Rilles time away is good. This place really is just a lounge to shoot the shit... Good luck to you sir and if you change your mind that's fine too you will be welcomed

that's what this is...its an appearance of division. lets' look at the top sentence. You are the whole tree, and you are imagining that you are being one pariticular leaf. so you are not being the other leafs... Who else would be being the other leaves then? or maybe the other leaves are just being imaged by you as the tree? And when you stop being the leaf and realize you are the tree, you see this. You can't get around Oneness as much as you are trying.

why do you have to force yourself to get over this? you still have some attachments to this world. That's OK. You have an eternity to awaken.

@Iesu ?

@Iesu God doesn't have to be alone. All it has to do is go back to sleep.

Well before we even discuss time as being imaginary...let's look at the 1st part. Language is dualistic so when we talk we can't help but include time..so If you and he are absolutely identical..then that would mean there could be only a single actuality. In other words, you as God could not be actually experiencing multiple points of view simultaneously - because you as God are experiencing this particular one. And so how could "he" if he is you, be experiencing "his" or "yours" without you? You see you are God. You can't "miss" anything because you are everything. So some experience cannot be happening without you! If he is you, then dualistically speaking at some point you will BE him. But you are not being him now because you are being you! You can't be him without you being there to do it !

But I can also ask you- Why can't "i" and "you" be identical ? And then if that's the case why do you assume this One Mind or God experiences all forms simultaneously? Could you be sliding in a hidden assumption that things are happening "at the same time" notice that time is an imaginary dimension like space.

that's because the ego doesn't wan to die again, or have a psychotic break. when this is actually realized directly you will be in such an expanded state of consciousness that there will be no separation between you and the walls or you and other people. you will be on the verge of a psychotic break or you will actually have a psychotic break. You will realize that you are God and that there is nothing outside of You. But the ego doesn't want this, so now it just is very busy keeping you deluded from the Truth or casting doubt over your awakening. I have been there myself. The ego has to keep you deceived. If you are not deceived, you couldn't exist as @jimwell