Wyze

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  1. Sorry must have misread your question. Did you mean criticism or debate? Generally a debate is an intellectual engagement about a common topic which does not result in emotional insult. healthy Green can debate with healthy Green, And healthy Yellow can debate with healthy Green. Whether the message goes to Green, depends on the Green. Any form of criticism is a indication of lower level. I am assuming criticism as an emotional put down.
  2. Here is a video of examples of healthy and unhealthy embodiment of Red. My favourite is still the Monkey (and probably the only real one).
  3. It isn't the act of criticism that is "wrong"; it is the need to criticize that is an indication of your shadow presence. This isn't about progressiveness; because all behaviour will have a good and bad root. Take eating for example; eating gives you nutrition; but eating too much can result in unhealthy outcomes. If you criticism eating then it just shows a lack of integrated understanding of both sides of the behaviour. So there are good and bad outcomes to feminism, activism and prostitution etc - your personal development is for you to find a healthy balanced understanding to both sides of the behaviour. When you criticism something or someone, it shows an egocentric aspect of your personality - because essentially your saying; "what I know is better and more important than what you know; therefore I judge your behaviour as inferior" All levels of the spiral have their own version of that.
  4. @Emerald Have to say all your observations are very true (yes I am a female). And thank you for taking the time to get back to me. I'm starting to recognize the limitation of "looking and behaving masculine" have as well. I've observed that the lower expression of femininity tend to attract a lot of "dominate personalities" (lower expression of masculinity) and hence the move to emulate males for protection. But that itself also causes a lot of friction with both males and females. - I think not following social scripts can have some really challenging effects. I've had males picking fights with me; females to shun me etc As of the moment; I'm doing a lot of introspection, and very experimental in my expression and things I do. Really practicing my intuition and allowing myself to feel emotions (lol yeah... that sounded weird) - What would you suggest those of us with too much masculinity, how to navigate this world? as I feel this masculine expression is important and I need to go through this. I just finished your video on Divine Femininity - I really enjoyed your new perspective as to why expression of femininity was breed out of society for so long. However I thought that was more a recent thing due to the rise in thinking culture and mass education; but yeah that was a shock. I am wondering what you said that you've experienced Divine Femininity; what do you mean by that?
  5. @kieranperez what you've pointed out is basically Green being Green and Turquoise being Turquoise. There was no lesson or no blind spot. It is what it is.
  6. LOL I got blocked by 2nd post (time limits), and for some reason couldn't edit the previous post. Anyway... I am interested in what your views on Femininity and Masculinity in females in stages Orange and Green; and how it manifest? In my personal experience; I found that when I was in Orange, I was "feminine "- in dresscode, speech, behaviour etc. But I was not true feminine or empathetic. It was a cold calculated version. I was the Femme Fatale. I found that as I moved into Green; it was because now I actively express and embrace masculine way of behaviour, speech, and dresscode. If you see me now, I look like a boy. But deep down inside, it is protecting the empathy and wounds. The more I feel attacked by masculine expressions the more masculine I become. And because of this; I started question the "set in stone" binary gender roles and attraction - which is a scary paradigm shift.
  7. Well said. Green is empathy. DEEP DEEP empathy. It is the period where you are feeling your Karma for all the shit you've caused while you were in the other stages, like bashing Green.
  8. No. If you want to transcend, you must do the work yourself.
  9. Greens cannot just change to Turquoise just like that. Greens needs to learn to adapt their thinking and worldviews to Yellow first. There are hardly any Yellow or Yellow organisations to set the example, so its actually quiet difficult if someone is at Green to even realize that there are stages above; unless they serendipity found a book, video or a mentor. Guys, I think the Green bashing needs to stop; Green is the key and gateway to realize and feel human empathy on a global scale. This is the key skill to 2nd tiers awareness. Her emotional response is the her response to her perspective and care for the world being invalidated. You will find similar response from other stages if you invalidate their views; laugh at their powerlessness (Red), laugh at their Gods and tradition (Blue), laugh at their materialistic goals (Orange).
  10. Honestly, I think Orange is trying to influence society as much as any other colours. I remember an Orange manager was teaching me sales techniques, and his ultimate achievement was trying to be an influencer/expertise in a field where you can dictate to other people what they should want (product wise). I think Orange goals can be misguided by their hunger for power and influence; this include stealing or using Yellow ideas and market it with a plot twist rather than for the pure authentic reasons of improving whatever issues the buyers are facing. Healthy Orange is a gate keeper and understands the lower colours needs and wants (and can deliver it); and Green is more the empathetic mother but other colours tend to abuse it. Unfortunately, Yellow concept its self is too complicated for the lower tiers to understand and appreciate.
  11. I am interested in knowing more about this. I know Spiral Dynamics is much more popular in EU than any other western countries. However when I was living in the EU last year. I did not particular feel like I was in a Green country, and did not meet many Green or Yellow thinkers. If anything it felt Blue and Orange on a day to day basis. I was wondering, could this be due to the recent changes in politics and also the social events that are happening; which made this shift?
  12. I use to think like that until I discovered Spiral Dynamics. And upon understanding where I was on the spectrum. I could see what was missing from my life - and what I should build upon to cultivate it. This gave me new meaning. Yes once you've completed the stage, you will move onto the next stage's meaning of life. Its the journey that counts.
  13. I find SD to be one of the most comprehensive models out there. However being what it is; just a model, I can't say that it is fail-proof. I tend to see SD as a "theory" and use that to explain behaviours and motivations in individuals is rather helpful. When you remove yourself from the equation to understand behaviours; you start to see things as it is, and also help create more empathy. Knowing yourself and where you are on the model, helps you develop your own personal developmental path; it gives you a map when you are feeling lost - and I think this is particularly useful when you reach in between stages of development.
  14. I was wondering if the emotional connection and the "vibe with someone" that are often described as ways of finding the ultimate love; are really just people resonating on the same stage? So for example; if Person A is at the level Orange, they are more likely to find another Orange to partner up with. Yet when that Person A was at Blue, he/she would not have found the same Orange person to be worthy as their life partner. So how do we exactly make this choice? At what point does the person say I am ready to "settle down"? Is there a tendency to marry/date up the spiral as well?
  15. @shermano667 thanks for sharing your experience. I think the difference in the core of the stages made it difficult for you to relate to her and for her to relate to you.
  16. I think the "sexual disgust" and "feeling violated" comes from the intrusiveness (power) that the person have on you. It is an erode and disregard for your boundaries, personal preference and your personal autonomy. Hence rape victims often suffers from PTSD. And rape was never about the sex, the attract or the act. It is purely about the power to force you to do something you don't want to.
  17. I am someone who enjoys real life connections and I've been LOOKING for a teacher to help me level. But I feel like as a seeker, it is hard as well. People have this "hate" towards any conversation about the inner self. I now solely use the internet to help me grow. I do wonder, what is the best way to gauge if someone might be spiritual or have an inner life?
  18. @Krisena Good analysis. I've always wondered which level is Zhu Ge Lian, and Sima Yi? (In popular culture; Sima Yi is almost portrayed as a Machiavellian, while as Zhu Ge Lian is Albert Einstein like). Whats your opinion? Yellow/Turquoise Westworld Orange Ocean's 8 Blue/Orange Crazy Rich Asians
  19. I am going to make some assumption here about why you think one racial group is better than another (the underlying logic behind racism). This may or may not be true for you, but I hope by using this road map, you can resolve your own views on race. You probably think that your racial culture is better and superior to other race. Hence this creates and fuels your racial contempt. There is a massive label and simplification of a group of people, when you have no idea if the label is even true for the individual. This is mental laziness. Have you thought maybe instead of labeling everyone from that race: all stupid, all job thefts, all women haters - see people as individuals along the spectrum of different personality traits and behaviors. Because you will get a criminal in every race, as well as a hero from every race.
  20. I left. I couldn't handle it anymore. They expected me to behave a certain way, speak certain way, talk about certain things, value certain things etc etc. If I don't; expect a lot of backlash. I couldn't be the inauthentic me anymore. It was exhausting to act just to keep the peace. Expect alot of fall out, and alot more bitchying when you leave. The way I view it; hey its better for me and for them. Now we clear up space to find other people who match our worldview/values and life goals.
  21. @Flammable Then why is it applicable to do the "hard work", and "aim for that goal" when you were never in control of your destiny?
  22. Love relationships are the hardest to get over. Be kind to yourself in the process of healing. When you have strong reaction, in my experience, it is normally due to unresolved and unhealed childhood wounds that I am trying to get my romantic partner to fulfill. If you can pin point what the issue is exactly, and go back to a time where the same need wasn't met, learn to let that go and/or re-frame that story. Also sometimes it is my projection of "positive" qualities that I wanted for myself; that was in the person who rejected me. And the pain from the rejection was due to putting them on a pedestal. Solve this by being what you like in that other person. For example: I was rejected by someone I considered fun/popular/outgoing etc. So my pain is telling me that I need to be "fun/popular/outgoing"... Good luck.