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The quickest way to enlightenement. Stop trusting in the "I" thought that wants to attain enlightenement and that you believe to be yourself.

Enlightenment is when you realize that there is no you to become enlightened. Or rather, that your true nature has always been enlightenment.

Yes, resting as awareness can help in recognizing the fact that you have always been what's happening As long as you do not imply that there is a You resting in awareness, which is another ego construct Ego and its cunning ways, it will also want to claim that it got enlightened ahahahahah, this is so funny actually

@HarveyYes, and it needs the concept of time to make a case that it exists

Watching the watcher implies that there is still a You watching the watcher, so this is still a dualistic illusion of sort, see ? However, for many, it is hard to drop all effort and become the experience directly, so the teacher will guide the student to first watch the watcher before one realizes there is no one to watch and no one watching Actually, there is just Watching, no watcher. So, the method of watching the thinker is a crutch, while the other of resting as awareness is a method of no-method, as long as you do not think You have to do something to rest as awareness

Actually I chose to misunderstand your question ahaha, please forgive me Because the method is not that much of a deal if it's accompanied with right view in my understanding. But a more conventional answer would be : if you can do it for a 1-2 minutes without losing the count, you can start following the breath. Actually, counting the breath is a way for your mind to be stilled a little if it is running all over the place. An alternative would be to start each session of meditation by counting the breath, and when you feel the mind is calmer, start following the breath. Experience and see what suits you best

Ah okay Well, I would advise you, just following the breath with no artificial effort. Have no sense of an "I" watching the breath, become the breath and relax. The most important point is : do not try to get anywhere with the meditation, because this will reinforce a sense of self as the meditator.

Anger is not a problem, but look@Harvey , the issue is just right here. The ego claims everything, I really mean every f.. thing! Anger is not an issue, but when it becomes "MY anger", it gets so heavy! Every thought passing through would have no impact whatsoever, but as soon as it is considered "MINE", oh boy! In the same way, meditation is not an issue, but then the ego claims it also : now you are THE MEDITATOR instead of meditating or being meditated. And therefore, you want to attain something, have spiritual experiences, so that your ego can claim a new identity of being "a spiritual seeker", which is the same problem really... Every thought or emotion would be so light and uncared for, but now that you claim it to be YOURS, it carries the weight to traumatize you. So, just realize that thoughts were never yours to begin with, and have no care for any of them. Look for the MY in every situation, there lies the problem. Why do you think you have so much thoughts during a day? It is because the ego does not exist and needs to make you believe that it does, bombarding you with thousands of thoughts a day (instead of meditating, you are THE meditator - instead of SEEING, you are the Seer... ) Recognize the illusion of "MY, ME, MINE". Embrace everything that is happening in meditation, because this is the only experience that truly exists right now. All thoughts in your head entertain what's NOT happening and a sense of YOU to whom all experiences happen, but you are the experience itself Try this, if you feel like meditating, do it, but recognize the illusion of "I" and therefore accept every moment of life as it is the only truth

@mr lenny Which methods are you referring to ? Zazen is every moment spent with right view and understanding, I'd say.

In a sense, I would say there is no need to get rid of it. Just revognize that those judgements were not yours to begin with. This is the "MY" which seemingly gives weight to everything (thoughts VS MY thoughts, money VS MY money, judgement VS MY judgement). It is the "I" thought which gives importance to all other thoughts. this illusion will be recognized and then it will not matter

"The one you are looking for is the one who is looking" - St. Francis of Assisi

"Enlightenment is the ego's final disappointment" - Chogyam Trungpa

I cannot speak fron personal experience, so let me just quote a conversation between a monk and Bankei, a zen master and also an explanation by Namkhai Norbu. A monk asked : "when I'm sleeping soundly, I have dreams. How is it that we have dreams ? I'd like your opinion on this." The Master said:"When a person is sound asleep he doesn't have dreams. When you have dreams, you're not sleeping soundly." The monk was speechless. Another account from Namkhai Norbu. " When a practicioner has attained complete stability in contemplation, even if he is not engaged in any practice in particular, as soon as he falls asleep he finds himself in the state of natural light(1) and when he dreams, is aware that he is dreaming. Such an individual's practice is complete,and whether he lives or dies, he is always present, having achieved the Sambhogakaya." (1) the state of natural light corresponds to the phase between falling asleep and the arising of dreams. In this period, even if the mind does not function, the practicioner continues in the clarity of the state of presence That's all I got

@Light_Ray Hello, You can check out Sri Aurobindo as Mal said, it might very well suit you As far as non duality teachings are concerned, have you ever heard about Dzogchen ? If you are interested in it, look at some books from Namkhai Norbu. Good luck!!

Hello, I would like to share with you a video explaining pretty much the whole path of meditation in a really clear way. The speaker is a yogi who spent 12 years in a meditation cave in the Himalayas at 5000m, sleeping 3hrs a day. May all benefit from this teaching

Richard Rose, no bull* legit egokiller

Ajahn Chah, enlightened monk from the Buddhist Theravada tradition Franklin Merrel Wolf, american mystic who used inquiry of the Self. (Who am I?) Luangpor Teean, a monk we might not know about but is worth checking out, he has developped a new type of meditation technique that has helped him realize the path. Hsu Yun, a Chinese Chan Master whose life is absolutely remarkable. He died at 119 years old, despite many beatings and torture under the communist revolution. Dipa Ma, a woman whose life also is inspiring.

Just like there are people probably just like you with very little dust on their eyes who can directly perceive their true nature and that there was indeed nowhere to go to and no one to be realized, so they can go straight into the inquiry of the Self. But I do believe that for some (maybe most?) people, meditation can help settle the mind so that the recognition of one's true nature or inquiry of the Self (or lack thereof) can take place on the basis of solid foundations. The point is not to get attached or identify with the method, I would say So my conclusion would be, it depends. For some, meditation would be useless, recognition could happen directly through inquiry, for some maybe not. But sure at one point, you need to forget about all methods or effort. Would you agree with this?

hi, I think that the main point she is trying to make there is that the meditative state that is best for being able to examine one's own mind is a state that is calm, stable and yet very clear. Therefore, we need to be careful not to become dull while meditating. For instance, when you do mindfulness of breathing and that you get deeply relaxed and feel the breath somewhat, but not really clearly, you might want to focus a bit more. And oppositely if you are a bit too tense. We need to find the right combination of calmness and clarity. of course, we can let aside those beliefs about past lives and so forth, just keep what was useful for you

glad to hear:)

Wooooops! Yes indeed, I have neglected to post the link, sorry. (This is a great reminder of my lack of awareness ) Here is the link : Enjoy, hoping that you all will get something useful out of it

wow guys, sorry, I did not know we could not post videos here, will delete the post if needed. I just thought it was good to share. Really surprised by the reactions, that was not intended at all.

As long as you have awareness, you are fine But I understand what you mean, it is easy to fall into a kind of stupor (a state where you are relaxed, but a bit unconscious, with less clarity) . If you want, and because the "Doing nothing" technique is closely related to Dzogchen in the tibetan tradition, I can send you a link that discusses it