Meditationdude

@Ones “destroy deep beliefs” yes they can do that, but so can good insightful meditation. I meant the deeper levels of awakening. When Leo and people talk about Truth, oneness and infinity and pure consciousness, I don’t see how it’s possible to experience this without psychedelics. So again my question remains, is it possible without drugs to do in western life without becoming a monk?

@DaneV I meant “significant” growth like the oneness and infinity that everyone of this forum loves to talk about and Leo has been teaching lately. I’ve been doing the work for years and I’ve never experienced those things for myself. It seems to me like everyone who has was tripping balls. So if I’m not going to do dmt or lsd, will I ever experience absolutely infinity or oneness organically? Or do I have to sit and meditate for 16 hours a day? I’d like for people to just be honest with themselves and say that these awakenings only happened because of drugs and that they can’t emulate them again without them. Leo should make this clear bc people will assume it’s possible without them just doing meditation, self inquiry and contemplation.

@SoonHei you see everything you said here went straight over my head.

@Rigel thanks man, just got back from paddle boarding on this empty quarry by my house, I feel much better.

Today I’m having one of those days where I just want to quit everything (all personal and spiritual development, my career, friendships, all of it). Suffering on another level even though everything in my life is going really well. Ive been on this growth journey for over 4 years and I haven’t had any real gains lately (past 6 months) and life is stagnating hard. My meditations suck and my attention levels suck and I’m always bored. What the fuck is going on?!?

@Shadowraix ya I feel like after my last two mushroom trips I had a backlash - started watching tv again, eating out and fucking around on my phone. I used to never watch tv or want to be on my phone. I’m gonna watch out for overstimulation and see if it improves my mood. Thanks man

@Dwarniel you eat more protein than I do and I’m a competitive fitness athlete. 120g is overkill, and a 60g shake is wasteful. 25g per meal is just fine.

@Leo Gura ?

@Cuddy5269 couple years back the same thing happened to me (afraid of dark, home invader coming to get me lol).. it passed within a few months. Try to laugh at it, that helped me.

@ActualizedDavid I like to think I’m very healthy with my diet so I’ll chime in here. Grocery list contains the following: gluten free bread, corn tortillas, avocados, apples, bananas, blueberries, spinach, broccoli, Brussel sprouts, snap peas, hummus, coconut oil, eggs (lots of eggs), greek yogurt, unsweetened almond milk, sweet potatoes, popcorn (made w coconut oil), peanut butter, almonds, cashews, dried mangos, gluten free oatmeal. What I drink: water (lots of it), coffee in mornings meals: Breakfast: fried egg on top of gluten free toast (2x) - or avocado toast with a fried egg on top - or oatmeal with peanut butter and bananas. Post workout shake: egg white protein, blueberries, banana, unsweetened almond milk, peanut butter, cinnamon, sea salt, spinach. Lunch: grilled veggies, sweet potato (mashed with coconut oil, cinnamon and sea salt), grilled chicken breast (8oz) or 3-4 scrabbles eggs. Mid Day Snack: vegetables and hummus or banana and peanut butter or just fruit and lots of water. Dinner: I usually just eat breakfast stuff again ? Hope this helps a bit.

I don’t think Leo the millionaire needs anything but our awareness. We can help change the world by spreading his word, not with our mouths but in our actions and through love.

Don’t ever try opiates, not even once. mediate daily!

@Leo Gura when I sit my intention is to focus on my object of concentration (electrical hum in the ears) and just see what comes up. Is that what you mean by sitting like a cat? Normally this method has been beneficial for me and produced great insight and depth of understanding but not as of late. And like I said I’m practicing more lately then I have in the past so it’s confusing. I’m not expecting linear growth as I understand the journey but I was just wondering why all of a sudden the insights just kinda ceased and it’s really hard to tell what’s mind chatter vs truth.

I’m having trouble lately in my sits distinguishing thoughts vs insight. I’m constantly questioning what’s real and what’s just delusion, like I don’t trust myself anymore. It’s confusing. I used to be so vigilant on what was thoughts and what was insight but I seem to be in a rut (even though my practice is just as strong if not stronger than it’s ever been). Im reading Mastering the core teachings of the Buddha right now and it says there’s a stage on the meditation path that almost feels like you’ve regressed, can’t meditate well and lost all your concentration powers. Maybe it’s something like that going on. anyone else experience this or have any advice on ways to get back on track with my insight meditation practice? For reference: I’m meditating daily ( last 4 yrs) 1-1.5 hours a day w binaural beats.

@andyjohnsonman No I meant that’s a question for her ?

@andyjohnsonman do you practice personal development/spiritual growth?

@Leo Gura ?

How come our default is unconsciousness? How can you tell which teachers speak the dharma vs bullshit? How can you believe in something like reincarnation with absolutely zero proof? Why should I start the journey when I know it’s insanely difficult and only a fraction of a minority actually reach the levels you discuss?

I woke up before sunrise and went on a two hour bike ride with close friends. Now I’m about to take shrooms w my girlfriend.

Weed. Im always “working on it.” ? I’ve sent myself to “rehab” last year 30 day solo mediation retreat to Guatemala, and got clean. But i quickly went back to smoking regularly after a few months. I know it sounds silly but I’m kinda proud of myself that weed is my only addiction. I was a hardcore drug addict basically my whole life. Prob shouldn’t be alive right now. I’m the very best version of myself at this moment. Thank you actualized.org @Leo Gura

The only psychedelic I’ve tried is shrooms and even then it makes me really anxious every time before I build up the courage to take them. I like shrooms but 5meo scares the shit out of me, how can I get over this so I can finally try it? What can I expect?

@robdl I feel like I’m getting to that point.

@ajasatya ok I understand now. I will contemplate this anxiety/fear and work on it, thank you.

@ajasatya l’ve been following Leo and practicing self actualization and meditating for 4 years. Is that not a good foundation for 5meo?

@Kensho about 6 grams