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@TheAvatarState show me this "mind" which was blown but yeyeyeyey

@clouffy you are asking this question as EGO and I will give you the answer which I think works best for the EGO enlightenment is always the case. using metaphors: enlightenment is knowing that the tv screen is / was / will remain ON and that you are the screen itself. right now, there's a tv show which is playing where clouffy, a character, thinks he is not enlightened and this will be replaced with a tv show where the body/mind of clouffy remains and will know that it was always enlightened the TV SCREEN is always present. the TV SHOWS change. you are the TV SCREEN and not the TV SHOW after "enlightenment" (self-realization) TV SHOWS will still continue, you will just start to "like" them more as you will not mind whatever happens in the show which happens to be playing at that time.

@Recursoinominado cool thanks. @universe lol. I was wearing a sweater, sitting near a portable heater and in a blanket lol

@Recursoinominado hmmm thank you for that. yeah, i remeber having read about that, but couldnt find where. thanks i dont really have emotions which arise along with it i remain calm now rather than 1st time it happened i was all like DA EFF IS THIS SHIT but now, its like i have a poker face on and body is shaking like it's japan during like 9.0 earthquake god bless hopefully emotions are silently being snucked out during this process too

@seeking_brilliance thanks for reply yeah, i suspect blockages or just trapped energy which is releasing in short, nothing to "worry" about per say... allow the shaking to happen knowing it's just trapped energy releasing and is good for the body?

@Joseph Maynor @IVONNE @Joseph Maynor That's why it's "apparent" free will. Innit?

@IVONNE there is no person there to begin with... No person there as a separate entity to have or not have any free will. That's what @Rilles is saying. Kind of like how a character in a book makes an apparent choice... But the decision was not his, it was the author's (pre-determined) but from the POV of the story and the character, he made the choice out of his own free will. In reality, there is no character beyond the story in real life.

@Highest <3 <3 bless up. indeed. and yes, i find the high deepens any breakthrough or understanding which I have sober. Seed is planet sober, and watered and grown when high

same here. or at least i tell myself that initially, weed began as randomn fun for me... eating was really fun while high. food tasted 100x better but now can't really tell difference... maybe because i did a lot and now used to it anyhow. i , like you, do it for non-dual work i find it easier to contemplate and apporach non-dual work while high too i do have things i want to stop using weed for as well - some traps i think which are there.... and hopefully my ego isnt fronting the whole usage and continued planned usage for this non-dual work when deep down my body is just addictied anyways. mind over matter >

@passerby https://www.rogercastillo.org/home he's got retreats coming in Australia in October 2019 His YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3nxl1CdbbysJB_KUBaLEfw

LOLOLOL Amen

<3 <3 amazing.

@Mikael89 Says the character Mikael in the movie which you are watching. You blaming the absolute = a character who is suffering in a tradegdy movie and when asked, blames the audience for watching the movie for having caused his suffering. Point i am making is that SEE how futile that is.. and how silly Blaming the absolute, sure... And then what? Also, in movies where an actor plays a double role (twin character or even 2 diff characters) say this actor plays both the good and the bad guy who loses in the movie. doesit make sense for the actor to complain about being the bad guy who loses ? He is also the good guy! And on the whole. He is real, characters are false. So if you're stuck in being playing mikael's character... Tough role i suppose... But you are also playing all other roles Love the role Know your role Play and live your role.

You might define a certain thought arising about your present moment experience. Any Thought or the label you may give to an experience is the perfect representation of that particular experience. So if you're sitting in a room on a yellow couch in Canada Then you are having an experience of sitting in a room on a yellow couch in Canada with the thought about it. And there is no " with the thought " it's together as a package. Thought included in your total experience from it! Not your experience of it and then "your" thought about it. @Jack River just understood this insight as a concept but it's already doing great! I see now what you mean by ONE UNITARY MOVEMENT! A block of experience (including thoughts) "moving thru time" But it's moving thru you . And you are totally still and unmoving

"...and they knew they were naked"

@Jack River wow amazing. Your words are flowing to me deeply right now Thank you

@Faceless epic

I didn't believe in ghosts or spirits... Until I found that I myself am a spirit, and that alone! Not the body or the mind, no thing of such kind!

One thing which came to my mind after first watching Leo video about absolute Infinity is that reality is truly that indeed. Absolutely effin infinite! Not limited or bound by anything, hence its the ALL Then Leo also says that it's not randomness and it's highly intelligent Which is fine... The appearance of order and highly intelligent is an appearance within the absolute But it seems that if reality didn't include randomness/ dullness and chaos within it (all relative distinctions btw) then how can it be absolutely infinite? Absolutely infinite implies a run-away chain reaction of infinite possibilities all appearing @Leo Gura Can that not be the case? As the absolute is the container of all Reality It would include within it, highly ordered and unordered sets, highly intelligent and unintelligent systems and so on?

@TheAvatarState hmmm, yes i do understand now what you meant... as this is ultimately a teaching... and like most teachings, there is a time when it applies and there will come a time when it also must be let go off... so to a beginner, it should not be something they should focus on... common response being, "okay, so i will just sit and do nothing... i am not doing anything anyways... i am not in control" also. with this truth (like many other truths) once it is fully understood, it should bring about the end of seeking i really liked an example @winterknight wrote "I know I'm sitting here on the couch watching the movie. I'm not in the movie. But there are still a few things I want to get clear... like what I should do when I face that movie villain." if one truly did understand that they are not the character who has apparent free will - then they would not have the follow up question the follow up question confirms that the questioner has taken the teaching as a concept only.

a similar thread also started about 7 hours prior and in terms of no free will vs a free will it's all about which perspective you see it from there is only "apparent free will" and yes, as you said, in truth, there is no free will free will is something which an individual separate entity may have but there is no individual separate entity so there can be no free will

@Jkris understand predetermination the following way. does a character in a story have any choice about what his next action will be? or is it dictated by the author of the story who is outside of the story-world? reality is the same. there are seemingly real characters making choices here and there... but when it is seen and understood that the characters are being played by actors... then it is seen that there was never any free will and all happened as it was destined to. check out this:

@SQAAD Yes. Everything in life predetermined. Just like a movie / novel is written. Creation of this thread was inevitable and Robi and my replies were also inevitable. The way that you may or may not cope with this is also predetermined. Sqaad also needs to recognize that if all is predetermined - it means whatever he appears to do is not his doing... but rather a preset happening. including confusion about this topic and questions like the one raised above... there is nobody here to be coping with anything psychologically and if there's an apparent someone here who needs to cope, that will then happen on it's own accord. So, YOU need only sit back and wait. and allow whatever needs to happen, happen.

This was really good! @Aakash bro. With this, i think one needs to get that such a statement / question can only arise if one isn't speaking from the TRUTH. It can only arise if one is speaking as the ego who believes in a concept that it can have enlightenment. @winterknight thank you. Powerful reminder for myself too. Questioning who asks or makes a particular statement And then the answer is seen/felt.

i will attempt to answer as I seem to be in a similar place the one who wants to kill the person is also the person - in other words, not me. i am just aware of this unfolding that I want to kill the doubter or try to stop the one thinking there is more to do and I am aware of it, prior to my writing/saying that I am aware of it. i am aware - always. silently so the identification flickers back n forth but the reminding thought which pops up soon after is that I AM THAT and this drops me back to the I AM and detachment occurs.