SoonHei

When working on myself as a person and self reflecting on myself based on recent past... If you think you're a very shitty person, then apart from also ignoring the thought that it's not YOU, is being okay with myself as being a shitty person ok? Is that what they call the first step? Admitting or rather just simply seeing that you are what you are and what's done is done. Acknowledging that you're that way but not beating yourself up for it, accepting and then certainly taking to fix that. ?

@winterknight wow I love that movie analogy And the "person in the theater" . Wow This intellectual understanding alone is quite.liberating for.me! This just helps paint a better picture so to speak and how and exactly why surrender is being directed... Like watching a movie and literally feeling sad as if you were the main character... Wow. But how extremely subtle... Almost not.subtle at all As it is one! It's already the case... Though the plot of the movie, even with respect to weather your search ends or not, is already "written" or in other words there isn't a "you" there doing anything or Making choices so what's appears is simply flowing ... Godliness is flowing

@Ampresus Yes... if you were DOING the DO NOTHING method... that's where you're doing it wrong

WhatNo-Body and nobody Wow. I like that.@How to be wisewisewisewisewisewisewisewise ---------------- Unsure how to delete above, using my phone and doesn't delete the user tag and the text ----------------- So wanted to add that as "What Is" is ising... It can be said that the story of life is lifeing Even this understanding above that what is / life is constantly unfolding and happening is part of that happening And it is all happening to/in the NOW. Self aware and sustaining existence existing eternally.

What Is is, ising.

talked a non-duality teacher (self realized) which a friend introduced to me yesterday over the phone. my first time with such encounter... i am not sure if it was due to the fact that it was over the phone... or just a different platform with speaking about non-duality with someone i know to be awakened... by i didn't really quite know what to talk about or ask... almost like what you see in tony parson/ jim newman's meetings... it's like a question forms (if/when it finally does) like a wave... and there is this tension so to speak which can only be seemingly resolved with the answer the answer is the wave crashing back into the ocean thereby bringing upon peace and solving that question with this, it was seen that questions are truly never ending and a helpless pursuit... sure, one can't help if the questions form but seeing and understanding this naturally will shun many if not most questions from forming... just the waves and the ocean dancing - nothing to see / ask here

@Shin meh. that point not too important here the discovery was more powerful. but yeah, some dude - common guy, in my area who teaches non-duality and is well known. no online presence. anyhow. i hadn't been more quite before lol as to what to ask or talk about because in knowing answers wont give whatever it is I am searching for

@winterknight hmmm yes. thanks and i agree as awareness simply is and is watching the play - either knowingly or not. a serial killer can be consciously or unconsciously be doing his deed. it's all a wonderful construct the more you understand. truly absolutely infinite and perfect. the only way it can be...

@winterknight there are the ying and yang to enlightenment... mostly, the ying side is talked about and seen and popular... But of course, there must also be and thus is the Yang. Now what I mean with these is: I talk about ying as "good" And I talk about yang as "bad/evil" They are in quotes because ultimately there is no such thing and I get that. So with that said, my question is, enlightenment can also mean a person who was a psyopath killer prior to Awakening and he then has an awakening and it's permanent... then can his behavior can remain as it was if not infinitely worsen yet he would still be the buddah? This would be the God POV of Hell side of enlightenment and it's ever worsening "experience" ? Vs the good side.of enlightenment mooji/sadhguru etc that can be said to be God's POV of the good/heaven side of enlightenment? (Again the hell/heaven are distinctions) but i am using them in the context of what occurs/unfolds from the pov of a human in this dream of life.

@Nahm thank you like always. your words strike as lightning deep into me indeed. the way it happens in my case is being identified as the person and worrying. just telling myself and feeling it out that i am not that and using past confirmations to address and confirm that it is not just an idea but i am truly not the person. then detachment occurs. and there is a bit of ease... i was about to write that I kind of feel sorry for the character, being in that predicament.... but then realized who feels sorry but the character itself @Skanzi yes. i agree with you. it's labeling myself first, and then furthering it by trying to "accept" it . kinda building your own story there so to speak but yeah. shitty/mean/self-ish person... relatively speaking.. like, i was asked by a friend to be mindful about something which i did not end up doing... but as i see thru these habbits. the energy in them tends to ease i like that video by Leo... "awareness alone is curative" - very much the case @Truth Addict and detach. the only "way" <3

in a more fearful or less fearful way? @WelcometoReality

@Preetom ur so very right! Nobody to eat the cake Truth is for truth And to really eat that cake, you must become and surrender to the truth But this.means.knowing.and.accepting fully the consequences of my actions and yes here again the I speaks To enjoy the cake. I must become nobody... Abide as and become nothing. @cetus56 public swimming hours from 2-5pm.daily @WelcometoReality yes brother. Thoughts alone i can handle.. it's rather the karmic consequences of certain actions which were taken that I am worried about Like being tied to a tree and seeing the forrest fire approaching... the Thought that the fire is coming to be and will likely burn me... Is a thought but it's likely the case and "true" So here there is nothing but its acceptance and surrender to the truth. Become noone, truly. Effortless becoming.

Blessed posts fellas

@cetus56 hmmm Sure. Acknowledging the negative however would imply the projection for forthcoming negative domino effect Like if i forgot to shut the tap and left the home. I am 100km away when i remember this is so... Now i expect my basement to be flooded for example The basement flooding which will result, that is what is called karma? I guess turning that to positive... Maybe i needed to redo my floors in basement so it's good? @zambize thank you. Yes the same thought process... @Highest if only i was at a point to be able to abide from and as that... @Preetom yeah. That's crazy! the groundless meaning nature of thoughts wow. Indeed. I guess with that, if i take out the I, no issue is there... It just really means that you have to be just ok with whatever happens Dropping the I is the case when there is no worry or nobody there to accept or reject the situation... So the moment there is a question of this worry again means the I has been picked back up... Hmmm kinda talked out loud to myself there (Well that's always the only case though, isn't it) @Serotoninluv Not using the "this is just what I am" in an unhealthy way... I feel that maybe the case here for me... I have a pattern of thoughts about being and not being the doer of my actions. Which either makes me reason with myself and do something i normally wouldn't do... Saying to myself well. I wont step in to stop. And if that's what's happens, then well that is what was supposed to happen (it is true) but it's this knowledge in the wrong hands (my ego) and it causes this Thought and repeated negative behavior I have been trying to stop...

No-Body and nobody Wow. I like that.@How to be wise

@winterknight thank you. A pleasure as always.

Also had this insight that the body does not know, technically or heck even directly, that what "I the Self" or even the character knows. There is only an apparent connection between it. It just occurs on the same frame and we make a story out of it. And well the body is a distinction and that dissolves the body right there

@How to be wise how about this spin... When I say, it's "true", then it is True. And then, a second later, I say it's "untrue", then it's Untrue.

@win@winterknight From the fully realized "POV" which I consider to be yours/mooji/spira/tolle's ever-present experience which doesn't shift back and forth... From that POV, would the "awakened one" care or have preference over if IT were to shift between having the POV of a character who is awakened and rich vs a character who is awakened and poor, homeless and say partially blind. In other words, when that "which I am" is seen as already and eternally to be self realized would it care about what then unfolds out in my life? Like if there is hardship initially and then whatever or even hardship and a.continued downward spiral... As long as one is buddah, there is no more to be done? It is, as it is? Even with the character sitting down and doing nothing, and having the realization he is buddah, this is ok? (I am sure Bad for the character but ok for the self) Another question The realization that all is unfolding as it should really for.me personally brings me to just being ok with the situation, no matter how shitty things are... But the trick here is that this may allow things to get worse because you aren't doing anything about it. It's almost as if it's like the character really has to be okay with the present circumstances if it's the reflection of the understanding, however should also look back and see the repetitive negative behaviours leading the line of destruction of your life and what you should learn your responsibility as the ME and create and work for the work which will bring your life back to track.

@How to be wise lol it is and isn't true.

@Amun don't think he was asking He was telling you!

@Highest hmmm An add on question And this is the ego/SoonHei asking The presence which I am will be untouched... But with the seeing of the truth, the unsettling feelings which follow for the ego... That's a necessary process? I suppose it cannot be avoided... And must be transended... ? Awareness can continue to be detached and not care knowing it is the screen... But the ego is left on it's own with nobody to go to for help? Hmmm. In writing this what came to mind was the ego can put faith in God/awareness and ask for grace to come peacefully Bless

@Joseph Maynor yup. Very beautiful. @Highest indeed brother. Team weed haha. That was during a weed high. Meditation for me during the highs brings be closer and closer to the present moment until there is just the present moment I did have some thoughts run in my head during that time about not being able to escape from myself because i am everything It is all thoughts for the ego That i will be terrified and shocked I think there is no escaping that fact for the ego It must go thru that phase and ultimately give into it. Surrender In my case, most negative thoughts were followed by the question, who is afraid. I know myself to be the watcher of the one that is afraid and this gave me some space and relaxation occured @Nahm whatever you say @How to be wise hmmm. From absolute point of view. There is just a singularity. To say that it is or isn't is a realative/dualistic POV. Yeah? @Amun god bless xhibit <3

The empty chalkboard is aware in every pixel of manifest reality. And the chalkboard without writing on it is One (Spirit/God) And is there really any separation between the chalkboard and what's written/drawn on it? <3

@TRzed if you place a piano infront of a 1 year old child and he just starts to press random keys here and there... it will all just be random sounds. the child does not want anything and the sounds don't mean anything same thing with the mind. it is random stream of thoughts which are bubbling up into and then out of your awareness... as you are accustomed to it, you have given the thoughts "apparent" meaning that is all. funny and amazing how this apparent meaning can still lead you to have seemingly intellectual understanding like this example here apparent meaning is very powerful and real however. just like when you're watching a movie, all you're seeing is still frames which are rapidly changing to give the illusion of movement... it is an apparent movement. nothing more