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There are many Rupert Spira videos in which he says "nobody's ever been able to find an outside, physical universe" About this statement here, given how our reality is... Is there no possible way that there could have been a physical universe? In another reality perhaps let's say... I know this Current reality / existence is ALL THERE IS. nothing is outside of it. I'm just saying, is this the only way it could have been? That it's all made up of consciousness and no physical material. I ask this question in response to what Rupert says... That nobody's been able to find a physical universe What would such a universe/reality be like if it were found? So again, is the only way reality can be, the way it is now... that is, One single Infinite consiouness, which itself is the knower in Infinite forms and the creator of all... No physical creation so to speak...

@iamme lol I see where you're coming from but the way @Leo Gura explained it was just how I needed to see it! It really did make me pause and pay attention to what I really was asking This right here hit the nail on its head Thanks Leo! I truly mean it.

@Feel Good lol aaaah! thanks for the buzz kill there mate lol as i said, i mainly asked the question because: it seems that just because nobody has "yet" been able to find it. it is the absolute truth somehow... i guess, I, knowing otherwise that the world is not material, shouldn't be too concerned with this lol but was just asking if this question is the correct way to approach it... anyhow. you're right. back to the meditation mat for me!

one thing scientists got right - energy cannot be created or destroyed. there is an infinite amount of it - since always. it is un-created - science itself says cannot be created and it is eternal cannot be destroyed the only thing they got wrong is that they say there was a "start" when it was created... all at once, Le Big Bang... Naaaa, that ain't cool scientists... get that shit right!

@Feel Good lol. i was basically asking that is it possible that reality could have been constructed out of small particles/atoms as the materialist paradigm currently views it. and if so, then how would that have differed from THIS reality in which we are - this virtual/holographic/dream reality

yes indeed. i understand it is this way. but i question if it could ever have been the materialist way? in other words, assume that something is proven to be true. ( i know it can't) but can it ever have been? or i guess, the only reason why i am even asking (or able to ask) this question to begin with is that I exist, as this, as the way this currently is - and this, we (most actualized.org users / Leo's video watchers ) know is True. may have answered my own question there... but shed some light, anyone, if i haven't closed this loop fully yet.

I think you hit the nail sqaure on the head with these two I guess the reason why I came up and likely may again come up with the type of question I asked is because when I look back on my life. It's always been about space, science, enistein etc I tend to think of it in those terms But it seems, the way u clarified it. The perspective matters and it can help clear out many thing and also understand it Unsure if science or facts have led to enlightenment but I wouldn't mind this approach Anyhow, seems like the work to be done is still inwards... Thank you @tsuki

i cant fully see how. but i am sure this is what happened... i think it's really a switch of prespective... like if i am in a car and i see my friend who is sitting on a bench as a i drive by. in my prespective, i am still and my freind is moving his relative prespective, he's still and i am moving.. but here, we are talking about THE ABSOLUTE prespective... and now as i wrote this, the complete stillness thought came to mind. the TRUE prespective is abolsutely still . all else moves thru it. i am that no-thing, stillness which is un-moving and is looking at all the contents passing thru it.. ? so in a way, i suppose i am receiver/observer of the contents of consiouness but am completelty empty myself

exactly! this right here is the driving force really easy to see the happiness and paranoia which come about in those states it is so easy to see that a paranoia or a fear during state of the high is just thought/projection i use the herbs to explore this realm and i can do it with more clarity vs the normal mode one thing which is very noticeable is that during that time, my awareness understands stuff and i can see how it just makes absolute sense. i may often write down something epic i realize but when i read that later in the normal state, it doesn't resonate so well... only thing i can think of is that the clarity goes away due to the rush of other things mind focuses on in the normal state vs the high state

i guess that seems to be my current experience... how should i approach it instead.. or how do YOU approach it in your experience @tsuki ?

@MarkusSweden but those other pages In the past and future Then that means that there is a way to access them in the "now" or I can flip back and forth as the book is all, already there? Sure, one page at a time, but I can read ahead, pick a page and experience/read that.. ? Is that only from let's say the author's view... Vs me the character on the single reading page only? The author knows all! Author/Creator/God/One Woah, that kinda clicked for me there. But again, does this author concept apply to reality?

hmmm i guess by past / future i presume its due to my conditioning I tend to think (though i know it likely isn't this way) that the past / future as a whole of an experience ARE / CAN BE known by something / by the HIGHER SELF consciousness... this question is mostly stemming from testimonials i have read from those who have had breakthrough experience on dmt or awakening experience in general where they say past/future ALREADY ARE EXISTING. always are, for eternity, in each moment. i like to think of this construct of our reality (though i know it is made of consiouness) but i like to think of it as a "physical" cosntruct in which the consiouness point can move about .. so that way, I guess there is a section in this "physical" construct inside of consiouness where I "was" yesterday and have now moved / passed that section and am where I am NOW.. really, in each moment, i am moving thru the consiouiness from past to future on the BOAT OF NOW. think frame by frame of a video clip... for reality. i know there are technically INFINTE frames between two moments of NOW... but that's how i see past/future as FRAMES (not 2d on a computer screen, but 3d real life frames) which we "move" thru on the passing NOW...

@tsuki @Nahm thank you both <3 i'll tag this for contemplation

is just the mere GLIMPSE of the Truth, which is often talked about, any different than the full blown awakening? i'm asking both in terms of understanding which follows and the "moment" of the "glimpse/non-experience" another thing it is said, to see thru the illusion, you have to see that YOU do not exist and it was just an illusory thought all along. for this, you have to prepare for / bring about the ego-death and GO THRU THE DEATH. Die and then Truth is revealed. so when the GLIMPSE happens, does reality somehow/someway bring about the EGO-DEATH for the ONE who has the glimpse? like, is it different/very random in terms of how the glimpse may happen vs someone working towards it and seeking for the truth has to put in "work" and seek for it.

so what does it mean that PAST/FUTURE already exist for eternity ?

@Nahm oh wow. how is it that you deal/explain with your children... are you bringing them up with the non-dual understanding as they age? are you "prepping: them for enlightenment/life of non-suffering?

sorry, i do not doubt it. but it's elegance is a bit beyond my understanding lol could you expand or put a spin on this so I may understand it a bit... @Nahm

@cetus56 hahahaha Leo would be an epic dad though lol. imagine his children are trained from a very young age to think and function in reality in the most optimal and efficient way . they would be fully-permanently enlightened by the time they were 5

you said hard to describe but that line above was perfect that's really what i am thinking it maybe like when one or at-least I am high, i can equate my experience (although temporary for the duration of the high) to what you said above in that moment, resistance is definitely let go of - allowing things to flow more naturally and effortlessly indeed

I saw some video either by Rupert Spira or Tom Campbell about this very question you asked... I can't find the video now lol It was a good explanation by a sage, that's what u need Try n find it. It's out there. Or post if someone If u know which vid it is

Wow thank you for that Hmm. That's true. I can see how it can be seen as chasing the high like state But yeah it does seem as ur mind is emptier , the creative insights and ideas will naturally flow too

u started the DO NOTHING technique 1 month ago? any crazy experieinces which happened during your sits? and how long do u sit for? times/durations/frequncy of the practice.. per day / week etc thanks

@luismatos thank you. makes sense. @WelcometoReality hopefully grace guides me through that bridge WOAHHH - that must have been one great mind fuck and fear-overload! i guess at "zero resistance" or minimal... those couple of hours pass like couple of hours and at maximum/heavy resistance... those couple of hours can stretch to days, weeks - heck, decades! have read a few posts about people spending what can only be truly called an eternity in their bad trips... and time itself stopping and the level of discomfort, fear, pain increasing without end, and exponentially added to the list of contemplation questions of mine. nice one

The REAL-YOU is/was ALWAYS there. That REAL-YOU made the choice to be born when distinction between ME and the ENVIRONMENT was made. Now the REAL-YOU identifies itself only with the tiny-you, the Me (body/mind) which is only part of the WHOLE, which the REAL-YOU are.

is she enlightened?