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yeap, can relate..couldn´t have described it better... a lot of people do meditation and think that is it... but that is the tip of the iceberg. That is 0.5% of what is possible in terms of freedom and 'opening' as you say. Imo The word 'surrender' is tricky. Because we understand surrender as an 'act', as 'action'. And from where 'action' comes? Always from the self. So lately what I have been discovering is that the ego or mind or self is surrendered with pure force. Some kind of activation of Consciousness, doesn´t matter by which means, mine that I do some yoga daily is because some energetic openings might happen, others it might be because one ingest a psychedelic, in anyway, it doesn´t matter. The point is, some button has been pushed, a more harmonic configuration has happened, that makes Consciousness to become Strong and Active, in that moment opening is possible. Because for the first time the tables are turned. The mind is weak and almost nowhere to be found, and the true Reality establishes is power. Because the surrender way... I don´t understand it. I´m not able to surrender...because as you say the self is the want that wants to surrender 😂 so again, that is 'action'. My perspective is: destroy the limits with Pure Force, pure Activation of Consciousness/Concentration. (with 'force' I don´t mean being angry of course, but an intensity of concentration, an Awareness very 'alive' so to speak).

The funny thing the ice layer is indeed the 'mystical conclusions' the op has wrote. Now the limits are 'I understand what this present moment is', 'the Infinite field is selflessness', 'There is only an Infinite field of consciousness', etc... What are this? If they are not living experiences Right now? Unless they are living experiences, they are the same as 'today I have to go pick up my kid from school', or 'hey honey, we need to go check out that new pizza venue they just opened'. They might be more 'close' to the real thing, in terms of 'decoration', but in my humble opinion... they don´t actually work. Either those phrases are Living experiences, or else is a another mind trick.

thx will check it out!

😂Wut i wasnt expecting that commment

Look, just get 1mg of fentanyl and you are good to go. Bring It with you in your wallet and if you ever get kidnapped by terrorists, just blow that shit up your nose like your last breath and youll be out of there in no time lol 💨

I think those of us that have struggled with trauma can relate, we never get to decide which one is the truth... The way we feel or experience certain thoughts that we call 'traumatic', is that a result of an external event, or the external event (or events) weren't really the cause but rather the interpretation we did of them? For example, let's take at the example of bullying. A kid that one day gets bullied might take it personal and think is about him, but maybe another kid might get bullied and just don't take it personal, think that the other guy is an asshole, and call it a day. The difference between the first kid and the second kid, might be that one is handling certain configuration of 'energy' that makes him want to take it personal and feel like a victim. After a lot of time I´m not yet sure if the 'answer' to is to heal trauma, or in the other hand, is to stop the configuration that allows to exist the trauma in the first place. Thoughts?

I think your point is aimed towards specific things. Sure, I can go to a life coach to taught me how to be disciplined if my personality is not used to having discipline (maybe by teaching me about the science of habits...etc). And meanwhile that coach might have a cigarette addiction. Who knows. And that wouldn´t invalidate that he knows about exercise discipline. That's fine and I agree with it. In other words, I don´t mean that if you know how to change a tire but don´t know how to fix a cavity you could not taught a dentist to change a tire. You definetely could. And viceversa. But we are not talking about tires, cavities, goals, relationships, or anything specific. We are talking about the system itself that is creating a mess out of itself, no matter how many books and universities you've gone. If you don´t know how to use your mind, body, energies, memory, entanglement to thought, etc... you can not taught anyone else how to use hir mind, body, energies, memory, and entanglement to thought. See the insanity of this. Who gives a fuck about if a therapist taughts you anything specific about discipline, self love, self-esteem or whatever, if at the end of the day those are just more conceptual games, if at the end of the day he still falls trapped by his karma and the patient too? Completely waste of time. Does not go to the solution. They are as lost as their patients. They just might know some therapy tricks. We are not interested in tricks. We are interested in ABSOLUTE SOLUTION.

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Sort of , I've tried rc analogues such as 2-fma. But not proper amphetamines.

of course! A wise man once said: "Don´t take advices from people that haven´t worked for them in the first place". Look around If you see once, only ONE therapist that have mastered their karma, stress, anxiety, ego, or whatever. Is a joke. Why they try to heal people when they haven´t healed themselves ? What a joke is this??? I appreciate your positivity , I hope you are right

Lol interesting substance for sure

Good point☝️ The problem is when therapy does not work. If therapists would work there wouldn't be mental illness or trauma. There's people going to therapy for years and years and they are still in the same in the same crap as when they started. Actually I think absolutely nothing external works, nobody knows how to untangle the trauma or karma. It seems you can only distance yourself or elevate your vibration so the vibration or energy level where trauma or mental illness exist, is no longer active. But stabilizing oneself in that vibration beyond the trauma, is hard as fuck. Just when you thought you had it under control it bite you in the ass again.

Yes, is true also that physically there is a significant anaesthesia effect. But the feeling of invincibility also comes a lot from a feeling of psychological grandiosity. Like no emotion or thought can't hurt you. 100 people could critique you at the same time and being in pcp you would still think they are wrong/assholes and you are are the one who is right. I forgot to mention the psychedelic properties. I´ve had some solipsistic and beyond weird psychedelic and pseudo mystical headspaces on that chem too...all of that while not being at all fucked up, meaning I wasn't seeing visuals or tripping or impaired...just subtle maniac-psychotic-mystical thoughts that revolve around in the mind. I can imagine someone with schizophrenia or similar illnesses struggle with something like that. One can handle those thoughts for 6-7 hours, but if you lived with that 24/7 those mystical psychotic thoughts end up being 100% your reality.

It all boils down to the mania and delusions of grandeur that pcp and derivatives of pcp provide. If you moderate doses and don't do it regularly is a chill substance. I've done 3-meo-pcp and is profound and fun. But do too much and you might end up in a bad place. The most dangerous effect is that it makes you feel like an invencible super intelligent God. So you start thinking doing it every day might be a good idea, that's when things can start to go south. 3-meo-pcp made me feel like a social god, is one of the best functional substances out there, If it weren't for the more you do it the less functional and more dumb it makes you lol

No, an ego is not necessary for "God to play the game of life" in the same way a Cow does not need an ego to eat grass, fuck and shit. What? I'm literally saying there isn't an absolute or relative perspective, is you that you are trying to defend that somewhere, somehow, this things actually exist. Notice you haven't proved it yet. When I asked you you said "right here right now". What? Here where? All I see is a window, a sofa, a hand, a TV screen. I have to create the concept of relative, absolute, and ego, in order for them to be real. A distinction between actual Life and concepts about life is necessary to grasp this. An "absolute perspective" and "relative perspective" are concepts about life. Not life itself. When talking about reality, we talk about what is real. Not about your mind, thoughts, or concepts. You can have a world on your own on that brain, but we are interested in clarity and what is actually there. No, there is Reality and then there are a bunch of perspectives. Perspectives exist within the mind. Perspectives might be useful for some survival tricks, but they won't bring you clarity.

Of course, there's been yoguis buried underground for weeks meditating. The rules are imaginary! @Razard86

There is no need for an argument. Materialist are actually the ones that have to offer proof that those experiences happen in the brain, which of course, they never will.

That can happen when you try to get your way into the heavens with pure force.

Is so funny because is so true in this forum 😂😂😂

Nihilism usually brings feelings of dispair and depression, Enlightenment (whatever that means, but let's say a Mystical way of experiencing life), usually brings the contrary, Celebration and Exhuberance of life.

Not trying to be a fanboy of sadhguru, but has anyone noticed that in all of his talks he has never slurred a single word when speaking? The scientist sometimes feels he's having a ictus. Btw, Osho had also the habit of emphasising the 's' on the words that finish with that letter. Misterios. I don't know if is a coincidence.

Now I know there are several types of yoga and I'm sure there are wacky states of consciousness you can reach with rare or intense types of yoga such as kundalini yoga, but I'm here to give a simple explanation of the traditional most simple ancient yoga, which is Hatha Yoga. I find important to give this explanation because a lot of people here think I talk about psychic phenomena or powers, or etc...when I talk about yoga, and nothing could be more further from the truth. Yoga, or at least the classical ancient Hatha Yoga is about reducing distortion to the maximum so Reality and Pure Clarity and happen. Is the contrary of anything "wacky" or "twisted". I will explain it doing a simple analogy: Imagine you are in your garden and you have a water hose. Your kid starts playing with it, and folds it. Suddenly the water is not running successfully and fluidly anymore. Maybe a few drops can still drip at the other end of the hose but most of the water is stucked. Is only when you put the hose back again in a straight position that the water can keep flowing perfectly and fully. Reality, Consciousness, Energy, God, Life, is this water hose. And what has happened is that the ego, the mind, the egoic configuration that has been built within Consciousness (You), is like this little kid that has folded the water hose. The water hose folded means experiencing separation, fear (even if is a slight fear, in form of subtle anxiety, tension, or "uneasiness"), the feeling of "I lack something", "something doesn't feel totally right", "there must be more than this, let me go build a billion dollar business to feel completeness, etc..." So since Yoguis are quite lazy to go build a billion dollar business, they came up with something else, and much more effective. A way of aligning the body (and as a consequence the energetic configuration) to be in Perfect Geometry with Reality. When we do a certain yoga position, commonly knows as "Asana", what happens is that the egoic configuration is being taken to a minimum, because the body is being positioned is such a way that is alined to the way reality Flows, the way energy flows, if your body and your energies are usually configured in such a way that it makes this water hose always folded, when we do an Asana what happens is that the body and the inner energies are placed in such a way that the hose starts being unfolded, to finally be completely straight. The water hose being completely straight menas that your body is not anymore a barrier to reality, but rather it becomes a receptive conductor for energy/consciousness/Life/Reality/God, when the body and inner energies are completely surrendered, you experience your body as an object that has surrendered itself, and is 'devoted' to Reality, when this happens, Water flows like a tsunami. There is not anymore friction, blockage, stuckness. There is just pure armonic reality existing. And this is the peak state of Hatha Yoga. Entering and staying in a posture so perfectly aligned and receptive where individuality ends. And you are just another object in Reality. Have you ever imagined as a little kid if a Tree or a Flower has a "POV"? Or how inert objects experience life? Well, holding a Hatha Yoga posture in the way I'm talking about, will feel like being completely dead, and at the same time, it will feel like the best feeling in the world. Now, as a side note, does this means that all Yoga can be resumed in this? Certainly not. There are other types of yoga practices and even asanas that might have a different purpose or goal. But IME what I have described is the main goal of Yoga.