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chimps have childhood? ?

Damn, Interesting how we are not that different from chimps ?

@The0Self so basically to have success with women is all about the Now. If you get too invested or start projecting the power to her you are fucked uh? Because at first I definitely did not feel like this. At first I was very little invested, teasing her like she was my submissive, replying to text late (not purposely, but because I really didn't care that much yet about her) etc...then once I start seeing her that she was really giving me attention and validation, I think my mind slowly started to turn the tables 180°, until it has happened what has happened. So my summary is that is wasn't the girls fault nor mine, just that I fell to some kind of bad karmic thoughts of weakness. Hell, even when she told me that she prefer to not take things further and stay friends, I could have just not cared ? . Instead, I got drown into those karmic thoughts and this following hell week came. Fuck me. How dumb i was. Fuck Karma. I could have had so much fun with this girl ?

Any ideas to make a homemade drink that has sugar? I'm so tired of wasting tons of money ok Coke, Sprite, Nestea's and that crap over priced drinks that have dangerous edulcorants, preservatives and shit. I do need sugar, I go to the gym almost everyday and my body craves it, also I have an oxy habit so I think the drug depletes my sugar resources because I really crave it when I do it. So because of this two things I find myself everyday at some point of the day buying this sugary cans. Any idea to make a homemade drink of just water, sugar (and anything else that could be beneficial) and that will taste good? @Michael569

@Schizophonia @Thought Art @Buck EdwardsEdwardsEdEwaEdwardsEdEdwardsEdwardsEdEwaErds Sorry can't unquote. @Schizophonia Dude are you just envious that she was attracted to me or what. Don't try to project your negativity by saying she was "having fun kissing me" lmao, as if that is a bad thing. In the first date when I actually was going to kiss her for the last time he tried to kiss me and I teased her and said to her "oh, no i only wanted in the cheek" when you do that kind of cool shit we can talk about women

Yeah I know, I'm definitely do not do play that kind of dynamic almost never lol, but for some reason it popped up and she totally jumped along with me

@The0Self thanks for the messages, very useful. I have a question, thinking about it now, I can remember she was very receptive to my physical contact like I was touching their hands in a loving way while looking at her eyes and sometimes during the interaction we stare us in each other eyes for some seconds in silence while doing that. So what that means? @The0Self here is what I think; 1. She went on the second date with me because even though in the first one there was some hesitation, the interaction still was pretty sensual/romantic like (we even played around with the dynamic of master/submissive). Still, beyond all of that game there was shame and anxiety underneath me and maybe she sensed a bit that. But I think she still liked the interaction very much because she was very receptive. (In my view, that first date was my most fucking smooth and "high temperature"I ever had with a girl). 2. Then, the second date. I think she came to see what happens. Kind of the way of "Ok, I don't know really about this guy, let's see what he does". In this second date for some reason I was way more anxious and doubtful. We got lost in logical conversation. I still played around with her a bit by holding his hands sometimes and other don't, in a playful way. But overall as people are saying here, I was contracted in my blocked energy of fear and Shame that I have in my stomach. We only make out when saying good bye. When I asked her the following day after she told me she only wants to be friends, I kind of get out of her the words that "I didn't felt much desire". But obviously some receptivity were there, If not how she would have been so receptive to physical contact? (And even she being the one that asked me for a second date). But then probably all of that anxious fearful shame energy underneath me through the second date fuck it all up. I couldn't be myself, allow my desires, lead her, etc... Another thing I've learned apparently is that girls get 0 invested and attached, at least at this point of the "relationship". She didn't hesitated me in saying me good bye when I told her that I didn't want to be friends. But me is like my whole world crushed for 5 days. What the fuck? Lol

@Thought Art @Buck Edwards I'm having crazy anxiety right now can someone PM me

This is my personal view, this not might apply to everybody. But this is what I found. The solution that I have discovered to finally feel Ok in social situations is to completely surrender what I'm feeling in my stomach. It seems there is a deep brutal pain of rejection in my stomach. I have surrendered to it, i completely feel it, and then I speak or say whatever I want to say. For example now I'm feeling oh, look how pathetic I am, I have social anxiety, that's something inferior people have. And I surrender and express this. And I feel this pain and I share it with you. I'm free because I feel comfortable inside my own skin right now, finally I accept myself. In summary: don't try to avoid or escape the pain feeling. Feel it, go deep into it, let it say or do anything that wants to do to you. Don't be scared of it.

@Yimpa what the fuck: " build confidence in dating by talking to a bot! "

I feel this failed date was a blessing in disguise. ?I'm not scared of the pain anymore ??????

@SeaMonster That definetely makes sense. Thanks for the input.

Not much because I got high before the interaction. Big fucking mistake... I´m so clear right now im going to be completely sober in each interaction. (Although at the end of the date I wasn't that high anymore and I started again to feel this humiliation and inferiority shit, although I wasn't conscious about ---> the issue about of drugs). @Thought Art Anyways, after this horrific couple of days I´m pretty clear at this point that all it boils down is a pain in the stomach/third charka. Yesterday I went out socialising to a bar completely sober and for the first time I did not feel shame or fear, I just surrendered the pain of not being loved that I have in the stomach, and it seems I didn't have a lot of fear anymore. I think I have broken through. I think I just have to surrender to that pain, become conformable with it, express me through it, so I can release it slowly.

@Something Funny Good observation. ??

And that is, when I see a girl with an exceptionally pretty shoes and especially a perfect done pedicure. Some days It gives me such a frustration seeing such perfection that it ruins my day. Well not the whole day but at least 30min after seeing it I feel so frustrated, incredibly frustrated. Like I don't care about other parts of women in that way, of course I can feel very sexusally aroused looking at a good ass too, and yeah sure it can frustrate me to but definitely not in such tremendous level as seeing perfect painted pedicures. I would sell everything to be able to near or put in my mouth some of this MILFs perfect pedicures. Is insane. Is close to God what I experience with the desire they trigger me How can I avoid feeling this energetic frustration? I guess it happens on days I do not do spiritual practices. Please don't close this topic is totally serious, just because you haven't experienced this pain/desire/frustration doesn't mean is not very real to some of us.

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Are you that fucking sad to be insulting someone that is going through a bad moment? Really dude? Christ, you do need even more help than me. @Schizophonia

Thanks all of you for your messages. @StarStruck @Thought Art @Sincerity @Bazooka Jesus I didn't felt it was a normal interaction. It had sensual elements attached to it. The fact that he was receptive to my kisses and physical contact made me thought she was attracted to me. She even asked me to kiss her several times, I guess she was just playing with me. I know, is a mistake. It always happens to me because I start to have hopes a women will finally love me/be interested in me.

??will read it later thanks

Everyone with a penis. But if we talk about an attractive man that women desire, then is another story. I can not say anything in that regard because I'm still learning.

+1000. Dig enough and he will find a mountain of pain behind it

@Chives99 hard truths

It still blows my mind that in the first date I was touching her and saying her dirty shit and she was super stimulated and receptive, never had such a sensual interaction so fast so easy, but the second date something gone bad, I really had to do a bad fucking job on the second date to fuck it all up.

Right, that makes sense. She definetely sensed that. Damn women won't buy any doubt uh, lol. You have a point, but I think also that personally I might be denying my true wishes and desires and if I had allowed myself to fully be me things would have ended up differently. Looking back at the interaction I can definitely see i didn't do a lot of things I wanted to do. Cheers, that makes sense to me, contemplating now I can definetely see I lacked true confidence and leadership.

@Basman Thanks! That motivates me to quit that crap for good. Today I was going to buy a Coke but I controlled myself and bought carbonated water instead lol