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@Nahm dropping bombs Lol

I was saying in general, not anyone specifically. So, you are good hehehe...

We are trying to convince Andrea of our terminology and words to define God, that's not gonna happen. I think we have to learn to let go more.

I understand, it depends on our personality. In my case my strongest epiphany was through prayer. That's why I tend to look for it. But I understand not everyone has the same experiences. Thanks!

I know what you are saying. The understanding is useless before God. I had the strongest epiphany I ever had by asking God to baptize me with the holy spirit. It was crazy, anything I did before was so clear and strong as that revelation I had. That's why I usually don't pay too much attention to what I think or not. God is beyond thinking. We can't understand him with our thoughts, but we can put our thoughts towards him and he will do the work in us. And the epiphany happened after some days before, I used to sleep listening to the bible, hahaha... it was too much for my mind. I know that listening to the word can awake you without you doing anything to be awaken, in reality is God who awakens you with his grace. Thanks!

Ok, any advice?

@Shaun If you are trapped in a nightmare, probably is a nightmare created by the ego. Solipsism is from the POV of the ego, because the ego thinks he creates everything but is still a separated entity. From awareness POV is very different, because awareness is one but is everything at the same time. Not solipsism in that.

But non dualism is very different from Solipsism. They seem similar but it is completely different.

Non dualistic humor

Yez u can

It's very difficult at least for me to deal with that kind of mentality. At least if you are open to new ideas you can say how you see the universe, listen to others and say that you don't agree or you don't think so... but treating others as idiots because they not share your POV. No Good. If this guy read some article about quantum mechanics or some of the Neil Bohr quotes, probably he will call him stupid.

Some weeks ago I was watching a documentary in Netflix about bacteria which was living in a sea of sulfuric acid Lol.. And there was life there, they were studying forms of life in hazardous areas.

So cool... nice. I am thinking about going to an Orthodox church to seek for advice.

@zeroISinfinity I think this problem about dogmatism comes mostly from Evangelicals. I tell you because I was evangelical or protestant. Now I realize that this kind of belief is even more dangerous than Catholicism. The Catholics at least have the mystic side of the church, they don't fully accept them but they are there. I think the orthodox church are closer to the true teachings, IMO. Luther had good intentions but he made thing go bad really.

@zeroISinfinity ?

@jbram2002 Yup!

I agree... I will take some time to think how to post it. But I will try to do it this weekend.

Ok, so there's nothing more to talk about... no problem! Happy searching for you too and blessings!

Apocalypse Now!!!

I will do that! Thanks!

Riders on the storm! :-P

But I read the Bible and that's the answer I found... He showed me. I was transformed by him. I was very different after I saw what he was and he showed me what I am telling you. It's all in the Bible... The problem is that everyone interprets it differently, so... we will never agree by reasoning. I am telling you that I had a very strong experience where I saw God in everything, I saw the living waters running inside me, I loved everyone without the egoic love, just pure love. but of course, I am not saying I am right and you are wrong. I am saying that I think the Bible is true, the problem is our interpretation of what it says. You say that God showed you the correct interpretation... I say the same thing... what's happening? What do you think is happening?

I was thinking that this discussion doesn't correspond with the thread that we are in right now. So, what do you think if we create a new thread about Interpretation of Christianity and there we can talk about this theme that really is very passional, and I think a lot of people is confused by it. What do you think?

Everything is in the Bible, but the people who doesn't want to believe Jesus (God) words won't believe anyway. Jesus said to the pharisees that we are Gods, but of course... those who deny God began to accuse Jesus of making himself God, they won't accept like the pharisees that we are all children of god, we share his nature and we are with him and are him at the same time. Like Jesus, we are like him. Only the darkness make us thing that we are something different, separated and that we can judge others and kill others because of our beliefs or because others have different beliefs, that why you see so many wars in the name of GOD, which is something ridiculous. They say that you have to read it in the "context" (as you said before, they told me that too...) and the context (in their heads) Jesus meant Judges not Gods... I know you already know the answer to that. But Jesus said something very simple, not complicated like the Church like to say everything to confuse people. It is easier for them to control us if we put Jesus in a place where no one of us can touch him. So, if we don't do what they say we will go to hell. That's nonsense. Jesus clearly said "We are Gods"...

That's the ego's desire which is full of devil. Why did God allowed in Job, why did he allowed the devil to go into Job's home and do all those disasters? If God doesn't allow bad things to happen, why did he allow the devil to do all the devilish things that were done to Job? I know he was trying to prove that Job was loyal to him in despite of all the bad things that happened to him. But, don't you think that this is the same scenario in the actual world? He control everything, he knows that the only way we can turn to him is if he allows suffering, chaos, and destruction. If those things didn't happen we would never look for him. What do you think about that? Edit: (I know I am doing bad because I am at work hehehe... but I will be answering your other post if I can, or in the night. )