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Definitely, adds a bit of Tantra to the path. Got a vision board, have no idea ehat you're talking about, perfect question for shrooms

@Fede83 I had this question for a long time. A lot of tension between the legal dangers, mental and physiological dangers vs the deep curiosity and desire to try them. This is just my perspective, if you feel you haven't got the right technique and the techniques you've been doing are not effective, you need to try every technique(including psychedelics) to truly know what your unique path is. Choosing not to try them out of fear is unhealthy(caution is another story) and limiting your understanding of the best path for you. But once you've figured out how effective is and you choose not to do them, that's awesome, you dont need to do them again. If you find them effective then why not keep doing them?

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thanks Nahm for that Could you just elaborate more on what you mean by thoughts get recycled as appearance? When detachment of thoughts occur, I notice that less thoughts occur and more present moment happens. Of course the present moment is actually another deeper layer of thoughts, like you're peeling layers off an onion. But I don't see what this recycle stuff is.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Go tell that to the shroom in your profile pic and see if it agrees with you. Going from loss of job -> CEO at most reduces a minuscule of suffering, if any. The reason why you disagree is because you've been brainwashed by the Capitalist upbringing you've had to believe CEOs have better lives and are in less suffering than people on the streets - and yet CEOs have the same, if not higher rate of suicide, early deaths and drug abuse as people living on the streets. God knows that the answer to people's suffering isn't manipulating the dream to suck up to the dogmas of capitalism. God knows its a mindset problem. And that's partly why the world is exactly the way it is. The world is already the best, beautiful, optimised for happiness the exact way it is right now. No not the world you're living in, I mean the world you go to when you focus on the present moment so hard that you forget who you are. Any other world than that found in the extreme depths of the present moment is as imaginary as the monster under your bed. And you wonder why, why God did you make a world with loss of jobs, illnesses, murders - simple. Because those things are as real as the monster under your bed. You dream them up every day, then complain when those dreams don't go the way you want. The solution isn't to shout and yell at that monster, the solution isn't to try and kill that monster(how can you kill a dream that you keep thinking about?) the solution is to stop believing in the dream. Same with poverty and illness. The solution isn't to try and cure poverty, nor is it to eradicate disease, its to stop believing in it in the first place. And yet its still valuable to eradicate disease, because God likes to create - but don't be fooled, you're not meant to eradicate disease to end suffering, you're meant to eradicate disease IF its a way for you to express who you want to be, who you are, you do it for the sake of helping God create.

thankyou for that but already know what victim mentality is, I don't need you to give me an example.

Actually a man you were with did a bunch of things and you interpreted the things as negativity So it was: men did bunch of stuff -> entered your brain -> your brain chemicals converted bunch of stuff into 'negativity' So actually you brought the negativity into the relationship, not the man.

That's because the real ones that run the show are not the founders - its the investors. And investors STRICTLY care about maximizing profits. How could it be any other way? If they didn't, there would be no investors. Investors would die off. Startups are a risky business even for the most intelligent investors, so if they loosened their grip on the money side of things even a little, they would be loosing money not gaining any. "the sheep spend their life scared of the cattle dogs, but in the end get eaten by the shepherd".

Go ask him That's not a utopian society, that's much of the same of what's already happening Yes. Because its only the ego that desires perfect health for all humans. The Buddha desires all humans to awaken to that monster under their bed. Try to observe your mentally retarded family member without the ego's corruption. Maybe instead of mental illness you will see deep intelligence. Can you give this perspective to your mentally ill family member? That's what Buddhahood is really about.

@Mindfang413 Time for you to take 5 grams of shrooms

hahahahahahahhahahahaha good one

How do you know when to scrutinize a thought or detach from it. Scrutinizing and detaching are 2 different techniques with different results.

I would just say that seriousness is a necessary attitude for people who are TOO wound up in their ego. Just like how a blue stage attitude is necessary for red staged individuals, seriousness is necessary for egoic individuals. If an egoic person takes on your advice, they will instantly corrupt it and use it for justifying dysfunctional habits such as laziness. But if a non egoic person maintains seriousness beyond its expiry date, it will limit that individual, for that individual will need to do things and act in accord to what the seriousness prescribes, which will literally block activities that go beyond seriousness but are necessary for growth.

according to sadhguru you are

Lets start a massive movement for liking curvy girls, and then call ourselves a minority that gets bullied, then have orange and blue freaks attack us with stupid arguments, then we get benefits like scholarships and welfare programs dedicated to us.

Leo's first video on spirituality, something like 'a shocking truth you wont believe' or something like that. After contemplating that video materialism took a massive crack.

If you research trip reports from LSA as opposed to LSD, and trip reports of 5-MEO-DMT as opposed to NN-DMT you notice an interesting pattern. NN-DMT tends to be highly visual, there are deities, spirits, etc that you interact with and teach you stuff. On the other hand 5-MEO-DMT is the utilitarian brother. It cuts the crap and goes straight for what you're after: god realization and awakening. There are pros and cons to each approach. Based purely on research, people find NN-DMT easier to take than 5 meo. Probably because spirits, entities, etc is still dualistic(even if its of a higher dimension) and therefore its more comfortable for the ego(guessing?). But on the other end, its a distraction, a red herring. These entities are still imaginary. Interestingly theres a similar thing going on between LSA and LSD. LSD seems to be quite visual, and some do report spirits or entities(my friends). LSA is different, again it cuts the crap and goes straight for ego death. On low doses(what most tripper do) they call it 'contemplative' LSA might be an under appreciated psychedelic for spiritual growth. You wouldnt want to use LSA for parties. Most bad trip reports of LSA comes from people's misunderstanding/foolishness on best practices for taking LSA. A few come from the fact that it "cuts the crap". There are very little or no visual hallucinations. A lot of trippers take psychedelics for parties and recreation rather than for spiritual growth - hence their dislike for it. LSA is located in side woodrose or morning glory seeds. These seeds are posionous. If you take them, just like if you take the shell of cashews, or if you take rotten chicken, or any other posion, you will incur very negative side effects: Nausea, Lethargy, basically sickness. you will also get vascular constriction, but apparently this side effect is present in LSD, AL-LAD and lysergic psychedelics. And alarming amount of trippers chew the seeds, therefore eating the poison, resulting in bad trips. There is also the cold water extraction technique which reduces the poison, but not enough for a complete nausea free experience. For that you need to do an extraction with similar complexity to NN-DMT. Anyway just thought this was interesting and valuable for spiritual work. I'm going to personally keep exploring it because I quite like the "cut to the chase" aspect of it. Plus it's less powerful that 5 meo, making it gentler for noobs. AL-LAD looks good too, but what's great about this one is it's availability. Its legal in many more countries than AL-LAD is.

sounds like LSA is a component of LSD https://science.howstuffworks.com/lsd2.htm LSD must be LSA + chemicals for visuals and spirits.

@Schahin you have a point there, the seeds don't affect everyone badly. You must really hate synthetic drugs like LSD with that attitude haha. pharmahuasca is also made by 'raping' the ayahuasca vine with different chemicals, and trip reports suggest it's as natural of an experience as the original brew.

thanks! Great!

would you eat the leaves of a psychotria viridis/ayahuasca plant to get high from nn-dmt? then why would you eat the seeds of baby woodrose?

You will be forced to do things that you're ego was not designed to do. For example if you were a creative artist, you would be forced to be a highly logical, masculine manager who makes up rules and procedures. If you were an accountant, you would be forced to learn marketing skills where you have to draw really feminine creative banners. If you were a software engineer, you would be forced to stop living off your identity as a 'nerdy, anti social genius who cares about precision, scientific accuracy' and you will have to be a showman speaking to investors, bullshitting your ass off like a Donald Trump. In a business you need to completely change your ego to the point where you are no longer you anymore. You are someone else.

Ego Backlash. You're ego is very upset that you've chosen to go on the dark side and be conscious all the time. Its angry and its letting you know. Do you dare to stand against it? To detach from this 'realm'? To detach from the idea that you've become less conscious?(which of course is exactly what the ego wants you to think is happening, because it doesn't want to be conscious)

In the last trip I did on baby woodrose: I didnt quite manage to go to ego death because I was scared shitless of entering a "no mans land" a place where even colours, sounds and shapes dont exist. Like literally nothing. Awakening experiences Ive had in the past were not like this. They were realizations that the present moment is all there is, and everything is One. But that didnt mean everything dissolved completely, like what was happening on the trip. Im wondering, is entering this no mans land even useful for spiritual work? How on earth does sadhguru joke, drive his motorbike, etc. If he is in this no mans land? He musnt be, which means this experience I had on the trip musnt be enlightenment. And if it isnt enlightenment then what is it.

Yes this is what I mean by void, the 'objects' in the universe start to 'loose its shape' or in other words, you think the object has substance, for example a computer has a metal casing, has electronic components inside it etc. Void is simply realizing those are beliefs and they are not real, so the computer turns 'hollow' like its a hollogram, no substance. Same with your your girlfriend, you might think she's the love of your life, but that thing that makes her 'special', 'right for you', etc is actually a belief. Same with her being made of 'skin', having 'organs' inside the body. Its all a belief. You might as well walk up to her and look closely at her and see just light illuminating from her body, because that's all she is, just light. Nothing in there at all, nothing special about her, just light. Same goes with your parents, they are all illuminations. SAME GOES WITH EVERYTHING. I don't quite see how love is involved here tbh, just a bunch of hollograms of light walking around. But guess with enough trips will see.