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@Nak Khid that's an interesting quote from Leo. Where did you get that from? What was the context? I actually thought maybe my solution was TO take psychedelics, rather than a break from them. ? well you're doing it pal. There's lots of room for misunderstanding and interpretation in communication. If you were born into space invaders, and shot aliens your entire life, survived and persisted through your ability to shoot aliens, all of your friends survived based off how well they shot aliens, you were taught in school on the best ways to shoot aliens and the elites were the ones who could shoot aliens the best and the poor were the ones that couldn't shoot aliens that well. Then you somehow got into this human life where there's eating, sleeping, fucking, would you have the same view about your space invader friends and society? Would you still place a lot of importance and value in shooting aliens after seeing that shooting aliens isn't the only universe that exists and the only way to survive? Would you still place a lot of importance of not dying in space invaders? Being scared shitless of an alien landing on the ground? Would you even care? What if you did Leo's life purpose course on the best way to ace shooting all the aliens? Would you still care?

How many ivankiss's does it take to screw a light bulb? 1. 1 to spin the room round and round.

I think there is an extremely subtle and nuanced line between exploring a particular perspective, and believing in it. I think what really nails the exercise on the head is when you explore, feel ans learn something profound from the perspective, without believing in it, falling for it or getting indoctrinated by it. Also there's the trap of false equivelancies, where you believe a perspective is as good or valuable as the other. On the flip side though(of making the false equivelancy trap) there's judging a particular perspective as being absolutely worse or better than another. What are some ways to avoid such traps?

I would be up for writing AI that does moderation for you. Sounds pretty easy to be a mod, you literally just follow the guidelines black and white. Perfect task for a computer.

unless youre andrew:

that's exactly right, its weird.

how's it going for you particularly related to COVID?

Lol, I agree that pickup is largely be your authentic self, but there are particular techniques to learn to fine tune and maximise your results. Pickup started with mystery, then RSD type stuff came out, then naturalists came out to apparently overcome the limitations of RSD. I was curious about what Leo's views were of the naturalists types considering he has high views of RSD.

What about the naturalist style of pickup? Would you say this style is better than RSD?

Orange/Green countries like Switzerland, Spain, Belgium, Portugal are the average. UK Australia are actually solid orange and germany is blue orange. Scandinavia and canada are solid green and Austria has some higher than green elements. Greece and poland and croatia are examples of solid blue.

The most athiest(and therefore secular) developed countries are the UK, Australia and Germany - countries that are arguably less advanced(in SD terms) than the average developed country. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/maps-and-graphics/most-religious-countries-in-the-world/amp/

I wish there was a reputable pickup channel for south east asia. Literally all the advice from western channels dont work over here lol.

Actually the results of the teacher doesn't correlate with YOUR results. To give an example in a different field, just because Einstein was a genius doesn't mean he knows how to teach others to be a genius. Likewise just because you get lots of results from women doesn't mean you can teach it or means you're gonna get the same results as him. A lot of results from pickup comes from how much your perspective resonates with the teacher, rather than what the teacher achieves. Some people need Corey Wayne because his perspective resonates with others more than other perspectives like Playing With Fire's perspective. Anyway, I find that apart from minor technical tweaks, and possibly opening your mind up to new ideas for approaches, listening to pickup gurus is helpful really only for motivation and for battling the negative thoughts that arise when doing pickup. Its not that helpful for getting results. For getting results you're probably better off doing some foundational emotional awareness exercises and lots of practice and real life experimentation.

the most effective pickup technique is meditation and emotional intelligence exercises

Jann is a trained artist. He's not a professional programmer... Its like calling your mum a professional cook.

When I practice Netti Netti and ask myself "what's the thing that never changes" the answer is always "INTPs are annoying"

Singapore is the safest country in the world and is one of the most authoritarian. Yes there are a group of authoritarian countries that are much much safer than the west. I've lived in the west and the east, and in general the % of crime is generally equated to how much money a country has, and how much is spent on reducing crime. Of course there's millions of other factors - but by far the biggest factors are how developed a country is and how much money it spends on reduction of crime. Countries have different way of dealing with crime, Singapore uses surveillance. The US uses quite heavy military law enforcement, Europe uses more humanitarian methods such as psychological and therapeutic help. The most effective method for a particular country depends on its culture. Surveillance is most effective in China and Singapore and other south east asian countries, because in those countries obedience and following the law is highly valued. Chinese and Singaporeans and similar nations like following the law and security. The west on the other hand value freedom, human rights and privacy. So surveillance doesn't work as well. You need to use more flexible methods of de escalating situations in those countries. Otherwise the media will be onto you, the persecuted will fight back, etc. In Singapore or China you can't be flexible, because the citizens will take advantage of that due to their value system. I totally believe democratic nations do have more crime. Singapore has cameras everywhere and extremely harsh penalties. Everyone over there is shit scared of breaking the law. a 3 year old child can be in a dark alley way all alone in Singapore and nothing will happen to that kid. Even in Denmark you would be worried about such a situation. The liberties, freedom for democratic nations come at a cost of less surveillance and opportunity for more crime. Although the catch is authoritarian nations spend more money on crime, because micro managing and surveying their citizens with fine granularity costs lots more money. Lucky Asians are hard workers and work 7 days a week There are also costs to reduction of liberties, it makes it harder to curb political corruption and racism. Its harder to evolve a country that is not democratic. So there's long term costs to the short term gain of reduction of crime.

that's all its boiling down to isnt it? Everything. Waking up process in a nutshell

I think 80 million is out of your budget

We need an actualized.org red carpet for all the people who got enlightened. We should also get enlightenment trophies and have a showcase day to celebrate all the people that got enlightened and we can hand them their trophy.

My university has been debating a lot of racial stuff lately. But recently someone posted this photo: Which was a balsy move because my university is a purely prestigious engineering university (no arts courses like MIT) and it got 1000 likes, which is interesting because most of them there are asian international students and have the attitude of "arts students dont contribute to the world and are a waste of space while engineers provide all the value" the comments were supportive of this picture. I'm not from the US, how interesting.

yep, you're going against the herd that way but I guess that's a requirement of this work.

universities divide the 2 by saying an arts course is an arts course and an engineering course is an engineering course The renaissance was the time period where arts and science were combined (like leonardo da vinci's work). And universities will keep it that way until they wise up, and the engineering and arts departments stop spitting on each other.

I've got a super curious question for Leo's direction and path for enlightenment. So Leo's path atm is basically: at the end of this whole waking up process is an infinite love white light that collapses everything (mahasamadhi) and Leo's using dmt to untangle himself from the matrix and dissolve into it. I'm super curious about this because this is NOT how my spiritual path is going. And I'm wondering if there's a new spiritual avenue that's about to open up to me that I'm not aware of or have experienced yet. So for the past 3 yrs I have had several awakening experiences/mystical experiences, etc. About 4 months ago, through talking to some mods on here, started to realise there was no difference between mystical experiences and 'normal' life or normal experience. That's when life became a dream 24/7 and not just during a mystical experience. I then had a mescaline trip (first proper psychedelic trip, I wrote it on here). And on this trip I saw everything. This closed the book on all of my questions. The biggest thing I experienced was there were 2 Is, a small I and a big I. The big I had no fears, was completely loving, had no preferences, was 100% optimistic, positive, completely satisfied, completely wise, etc etc. And this big I's biggest want was to help the little I overcome its challenges and grow. The 2 Is are the only Is in the universe, and all of the external environment is literally a means for the small I to grow. Its all imaginary, like a simulator, there's only the 2 Is as crazy as it seems.... BUT time doesn't exist. During the trip I realised there was not a single point in time where I had ego death or 'woke up'. I was already awake for eternity, I never woke up. At the exact same time, there was not a single time I wasn't waking up. I am always waking up, and never wake up. In other words, there's no time so I am simultaneously the big I and the little I at the same time. And that's how its always been, forever. Forever its just been me waking up, and me already awake for eternity. And I saw a bunch of other stuff for WHY it was that way, which is too much to go into here. So after that trip, I was pretty fucken satisfied spiritually. I saw exactly where everything was the way it is, and had no burning questions, just simply felt like enjoying life. So WTF is Leo doing?? Where is he going? There's no time? The spiritual path is an illusion? He's already that white infinite light no? How will he wake up? WTF is this whole you're gonna dissolve into infinite white light forever shit? Its just so not my XP in spirituality.