Preety_India

I agree that was some good negging.

Yea I definitely like his passion. That's one thing I like.

If you have been to retreats in the past, what benefits did you experience emotionally, psychologically and spiritually? Share your experience.

Reminds me of you. @Marcel

psychicism - God experiences You.

I do not support this. I'm pretty sure there are many anti-abortionists that wouldn't support this yet they are against abortion/abortions for many different reasons. There should be exceptions for rape/incest/fetal issues. It wouldn't be appropriate to expect a woman to carry a child that is not born the normal way. Again. You're only considering this absolutely and totally from the woman's perspective alone. It's almost like the child(unborn) simply doesn't exist in your mind when you type all this. Why is child bearing considered slavery? Don't you think the unborn child has rights too? Your perspective is completely lacking in any empathy for the unborn child. You can only think this way if your mind automatically assumes the unborn child is nothing but a bag of groceries that can be abandoned/discarded on the side of the street because it's smelling bad. I liken this to pet owners who suddenly don't want the pet anymore because they don't think they can handle it and so they simply abandon the pet on the side of the road. And you're standing there and justifying it and calling it pet caring slavery if they aren't allowed to do that. How in the world you don't see the abuse of the pet? How you don't realize that those unborn children /fetuses did not sign up for this torture? Neither did they sign up to be born in the first place nor did they sign up to be butchered before birth? How do you not see this from the perspective of the unborn child at all? Did you say that women are subjected to child bearing slavery? That would imply that the women were forced to get pregnant in the first place by forcing them to have sex? But that's totally not the case. These women get pregnant of their own volition, nobody is forcing them to get pregnant, they could have easily chosen to not get pregnant by taking precautions, yet they didn't. You're saying as those women automatically get pregnant and have absolutely no control over how they get pregnant. That's possible in a rape scenario. Even despite rape, raped women who approach clinics for a morning after pill (or other medical interventions) can thwart the possibility of a pregnancy. In reality it's the first thing that most raped women do, they run to clinics and hospitals either for a rape kit and or to avoid a possible pregnancy. I feel like rape cases are used as strawman in these arguments. Cherry picking. Most unwanted pregnancies aren't from rape but from mindless reckless irresponsible unprotected sex. You're using the rape argument as though all women lining up to abortion clinics are raped women. Ridiculous. Why can't exceptions be given to raped women and women facing medical issues? That can be easily accommodated since these do not make up majority of the women who walk into an abortion clinic. Bringing children into the world? Are you kidding me? For a pregnancy to occur, sex and unprotected sex( on top of it) should happen first. The meat heads didn't force these innocent angels to have unprotected sex. These reckless people decided to not use protection and brought it on themselves. It's they who are causing the conceiving of the fetus in the first place, all things later. You act as though contraceptives simply don't exist. If you don't want to bring those kids into this world, don't have unprotected sex! Period. Then don't have. Use contraception and stop conception. Abortion is not the only way to stop a child from coming into this world. That's what a sensible anti-abortionist would want, they would want people to try safer ways to not have children and not have to resort to abortion.

It's weird to assume that women aren't oppressed there. Although occupation of a country is not necessarily a valid solution. Yet to dismiss the oppression is plain ignorance.

You already proved that my supersonic Magick has no impact on you. You're free. I don't use any Ouija boards, don't worry. My shit is kinda lame.

Must be cool to do this every few Sundays. Enjoy!

I just cast a spell on you that you will never ever be able to quote me on this forum again. (super angry right now). Your fingers/stylus pen(omg) will freeze the moment you quote me. Won't you want to test the efficacy of my spell now?

This subject about abortion and Women's reproductive rights are not so much about religion. For example, I'm not entirely in favor of abortion, yet I'm born a Hindu and this matter has nothing to do with religion in my perspective, not all Christians oppose Abortion, not all anti-Christians or non Christians or atheists favor it. So you seeing fundamentalist Christians opposing abortion is simply one dimension of it, not everyone opposing Abortion is an automatic fundamentalist Christian. This is more of a political cum legal issue more than religious. Although religion tends to interfere into politics giving you this illusion that this is a religious issue. If you get down to the basics, this is an issue of rights. Reproductive rights of the woman and the birth rights or basic rights of an unborn child/fetus. These are not simply women's rights because someone else's (someone who is not born yet) rights are enmeshed here with the woman's rights. So if you keep religion out, it will lead to way less confusion. Again. You're looking at this from a religious point of view. So it appears quite harsh from your view. But there are multiple dimensions to an issue. You're looking at this from a religious dimension. I'm looking at this from a political and legal dimension. No they're not sick. You have to put yourself in their shoes and see it from their perspective. It would be devilish to tell a raped woman to carry a child and birth it. The same could be said of a woman dealing with medical issues herself or a woman who is carrying an abnormal fetus. In such cases one needs to be lenient and let the woman not carry the fetus anymore. This is perfectly understandable. Again I don't think that the doctors should be attacked. I don't think that the pregnant woman should be attacked. I'm not supporting that. Yet, abuse of a fetus is always a possibility. Fetuses can be aborted for sale or for harvesting organs. This is a possibility and it would be highly immoral. A lot of abortions do not happen at the clinic. A lot of babies are aborted illegally (part of this is because the woman is scared of aborting a child at a clinic, possibly afraid of being attacked or demonized, yet a lot of women could be aborting a child not out of fear but out of laziness or wilful neglect/abuse. I can give you an example. A woman throwing/dumping her fetus down the toilet. How exactly does this look morally appealing to you? There was no dignity afforded to the unborn fetus and it was discarded as trash. You also have to take into account that abortion rights can be heavily abused by women who only want a son and not a daughter. They could carry out repeated abortions by illegally paying/hiring a doctor to determine the gender of the fetus and then abort all female fetuses. This is a crime. And in this scenario you can clearly see how abortion laws can be violated. Now the next issue that is tied to this is the nature of a fetus. When does a fetus become a child? Can a fetus be biologically considered a non human? If it's biologically a non human, is it psychologically and emotionally a non human too? Some people look at a fetus as a fetus and nothing more than some biological yet non emotional non sentient entity. However some people look at it not as a fetus but as a living breathing human being. This is question of perspective and is highly debatable. You cannot say that people who look at it as a child or "living breathing being" are absolutely wrong since it's the fetus that becomes a human upon birth. Also remember that even in the fetus stage it has a heart beat. At what stage should we really consider it to be a human, the heart beat stage? Or the post delivery stage? People who are pro-abortion think that it's not living if it's not born yet. But this is just a perspective, not the absolute truth. Now I'm not saying that the fetus is a human. Yet even if I said that the fetus is a human, that won't be an absolute truth either. That is none of these can be held as absolute truths, they are both simply perspectives and views, they could be both right and wrong at the same time. The next question is about pregnancy itself. If a woman (who wants to abort) is so irked by her pregnancy, why is she pregnant in the first place? Has she never heard of contraceptives, condoms, pills etc? Isn't she a first world country woman? How does she get pregnant and then suddenly realize that she does not want the child (and this is barring scenarios of rape or fetal medical issues)? A woman does not get pregnant on a one night stand unless she is some fertile Helenic princess. Women get pregnant like that only if they are very fertile, and have had sex just after ovulation. A pregnancy usually happens after multiple attempts of unprotected sex. So where was she all along? She didn't know that she would be pregnant if she had unprotected sex with her boyfriend? How would she not know that? In fact it's the very first thing that women think about in a fresh relationship - an unwanted pregnancy. They jump through hoops to make sure they don't get pregnant especially if they are not willing to become mothers. So it only takes a very reckless woman to simply get pregnant like it's buying groceries. Having a child is a huge privilege and this privilege shouldn't be abused. Most abortions are just reckless women getting pregnant and then not wanting the responsibility of a parent and wanting to discard the child as rubbish (in an abortion clinic) so that they can go on with their drunken sex lives. It's not as innocent as "I was raped or I became pregnant without my will and now I have to abort because this is so awful to me." What's so wrong with pregnancy and having a child? Shouldn't it be the most beautiful thing for a woman, a gift from nature? Shouldn't it be the natural culmination of a relationship /romance as nature wants it? And if the woman so dislikes pregnancy and hates being a mother, then why wouldn't she try a plethora of options meant for contraception? How do women in India not get pregnant before marriage? Are these not women? Don't they have a womb, a vagina and periods? Don't they have sexual desires? Don't they have boyfriends and husbands? Why don't they get pregnant? You could argue that they could be doing operations to not get pregnant anymore after the birth of children. But there are so many women in my family who have given birth to 1-2 kids and not gotten pregnant after that. Clear and simple. They tell their husbands to use condoms. Absolutely safe. Are husbands divorcing their wives in India because of condoms? Absolutely not. So why only western women have this problem. Why not Indian women? Because it comes down to lack of responsibility, hedonism, a sick culture that is full of drugs and drinking and partying and mindless sex and then waking up some day realizing that you're pregnant because oh shit you forgot precaution!!!!!! Sick and crazy are not people who oppose abortion. Sick are people who abuse their freedoms in the name of western culture. It looks less like "freedom" and "women's rights" to me and more like sickening abuse of "freedom" and recklessness to me to be frank. I already explained above. Mentally ill people are those who think they can do whatever they want with their fetus for their sex fiend frenzy. Responsible adults use precaution and a contraceptive.

I don't know how someone can compare the situation in Taliban to women's reproductive rights in first world countries. The Taliban literally butchers women's fundamental rights to survival on their own terms. A woman feeling like she cannot abort a child is vastly different from a woman feeling like she simply cannot live her life, feeling terrorized all the time. If you can't drink (or aren't allowed to) beer, it's one thing. But if you're not allowed to drink water, the whole equation changes quite radically, that's what we see here. Reproductive rights are like a privilege which cannot be abused. They aren't birth rights like safety or the "right to access court." Certain fundamental rights simply exist by birth. Reproductive rights aren't one of them.

You're so way off the mark here. You're conflating two very different things. Afghanistan's Taliban is depriving women of basic rights as a human being. A woman being pregnant is secondary and it's no longer just about the woman anymore, it's also about the child/fetus she is carrying which is a life (a human) distinct from hers. She should obviously deserve all her rights as a separate human being. But she cannot have complete authority over her child, even though in the condition where she is carrying it, because it's a separate human being who is voiceless and defenseless. We should care about her own rights yet we cannot ignore the rights of a child(a separate human being). That's where the conflict lies. Deciding things for a woman's child is not the same as taking away or infringing on her rights. It's like if a father was raping a child (I know this is an extreme example but try to corelate the softer parts of it), and if we decide that the child should be snatched from the father, should the father scream that his rights as a dad have been infringed upon? Would that make sense? You need to look at this issue without comparisons because they are too distinct and different from each other.

You need moderation and balance with everything. Paradoxes exist everywhere. Two conflicting theories coming together and you have to balance and juggle between two opposite yet related concepts. Much of life is all about striking a balance between different things. It's a dance.

I was having some kind of weird dreams. In one of the dreams I stood up to my mom and she was trying to get into my room and I told her no. In another dream, I was taking my dad to see a doctor. And the doctor was working for free for the poor. I was shocked because his fees were so low. He was very humble and kind. Yet some people were taking advantage of his kindness and not following his orders. I tried to follow all his procedures he was telling me. There was a weird machine and it would record numbers when you stood close to it. So I told my dad to stand there meanwhile I was looking at the numbers. The numbers were constantly fluctuating so I couldn't really tell an exact number to the doctor. I told the doctor to take a look himself and then decide. Everything was very weird looking. People would wait outside in a room. There were weird recording machines, a long pipe, monitoring machines with meters attached. It all looked strange. Machines that I had never seen before.

Everything is going so smoothly today I love it. Woke up rather early this morning.

I think if you want anything related to psychedelics then you should consider moving to a more liberal country in Europe. If psychedelics are banned in your country you might get into major trouble.

That's super cheap right?

If you have enough money then move out.. Sometimes we move out and then begin to face financial issues.

It's mainly based on the law of attraction P. S I am a witch.

I thought as though it was anaphylaxis. It was just extremely high inflammation.

I've heard a lot about Peter Ralston retreats. Has anyone been to Peter Ralston retreats? How is the experience and what do you learn there?

@Loba you could tell your brother to build a small wooden cabin in there and put a bed in there so you could always relax there whenever you want. Plus you could also build a hammock just outside of it to get the outdoor air. That would make up an exciting little permanent retreat.

Girl you win!

Is this safe?