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  1. There is no real distance or position to know what or why reality is. The real distance to reality exists only as a facet or happening in reality. Science and even spirituality are only facets of reality exploring other facets. When there is an illusion of being seperate and a part of reality a need to know what this is arises. That need to know is never really satisfied because it is based on a false claim which says that there is such a thing called reality outside of me. The mystery and awe of what is is lost in that, because this is experienced to be real and knowable. Really, there is no context to what is happening, you can't step outside of this and know it from a somehow more real position. This is the absolute appearing as whatever is happening. This is terrifying for the illusory seperate self though, because from a perspective it is total death and annihilation, the end of real existence. It isn't that dramatic when there is no one left, because there is no one left. There is no one left to hold onto this as something real and particular.


  2. Good on you for taking action and incorporating some good habits into your life. ? Here are some recommendations you might want to consider.

    Cold showers: Feels like shit but feels great afterwards, especially after a run. It's also a great way to challenge your comfort zone.

    Skin care routine (after a cold shower!?): This one is pretty meh, the benefits aren't life changing , but it makes you feel and look more fresh in the both senses of the word.

    Get some sun everyday if possible: The sun just lifts your spirit. 


  3. 56 minutes ago, Leo Nordin said:

    Don't put me in this category, I am not looking for liberation, liberation is easy. And you cannot be afraid of the actual thing liberation but you are afraid of the idea of liberation. Therefore my thread's title is not, in a sense, accurate.

    This is not personal, there is no intention to wake anybody up because there is no one to wake up, it is merely a description or an illumination of the dream of separation. What is so free about this is that these words don't come from anywhere, they don't come from knowing, they just happen with no one doing it. So there isn't anything to be understood or gotten, these words aren't pointing to somewhere else, they just are, words. And it doesn't get more direct and absolutely meaningless than that, haha. 

    56 minutes ago, Leo Nordin said:

    Right now I am just looking to expand my consciousness by asking you @traveler why are you still in unsatisfactory duality? 

    By @traveler I'm guessing you mean "the owner of these words." Either there is a dream of someone here owning these words or there isn't, another way of putting it is, either there is an illusion of free will or there isn't. If there is an illusion of freewill, there isn't ACTUALLY free will, the illusion just makes it seem like there is. So basically, no one is in an unsatisfactory state of duality, but there can be the illusion of that. Either way, it doesn't ACTUALLY matter, because it isn't ACTUALLY happening. It matters to the illusory individual though, so it goes on a search to look for Liberation, which is never here in it's dream, it reaaaally hopes that it'll happen tomorrow though.. haha. 

    1 hour ago, Leo Nordin said:

    I also am not that familiar with the word duality

    Duality basically just means "two," non-duality mean "not-two."

     

    "in my country you are a fucking weird delusional weird idiot man if you communicate this way." LMAO.

     

    1 hour ago, Leo Nordin said:

    If I understand rightly. You cannot function well in this world without duality, ending duality means death, or is there actually any duality to begin with. I don't quite get what duality means. I wouldn't call any state of being oneness except sleep or perhaps some deep meditation. 

    There is no duality to begin with, there is not even a beginning. Believing you can't function in this world without duality is just the individual having no idea what this actually points too. The individual is certain that it is real and that it is running the show, it thinks it makes everything happen and nothing will happen without it doing it. It doesn't do anything already, it is illusory, it just takes ownership of everything and says "yeah I did that." 8-) It is so unreal already, that when it falls away, it never were. 


  4. How can you ever fit the whole of everything into a word? Liberation is being liberated from the dream that "Liberation" has any meaning whatsoever; that "Liberation" is pointing to something else than this. The "me" is looking for the end of seperation, using dualistic tools. You1 looking for Liberation2 is the unsatisfactory duality you are trying to overcome. You're looking for the end of looking ? it's a loopy poopy


  5. What is longed for is more simple than you can imagine. It is exactly the claim that "you" have to be more aware or focus more on eating, showering or taking a shit that creates separation and dissatisfaction. The "me" tries to take as much in as possible of "the now," it is the exact same energy as looking for enlightenment "out there." Nothing is required for this to be what it is, no knowing of it is required, no focus is required, no awareness is required. It is not even required to recognize that nothing is required. This leaves no position left for you to stand, what is left is what already were, nothing changes because the illusion of something needing to change was the dream. You don't end up somewhere in a mystical cloud, that is the belief the individual has in it's dream. This is already TOTALLY unknown, and no one knows that. 


  6. You don't have a vibration. I've noticed that the notion of an energetical or vibrational bubble that is mine has become a mainstream belief in society, especially among the youth. This claim has no reality, it is a part of the dream of being a seperate me. When you watch a horror movie there might be the vibration of fear and if there is, the directors did something right. The point of a scary movie is to scare you, the point of a comedy is to make you laugh, none of the above has more value than the other. The value is put upon it by the seperate me that takes responsibility and ownership of everything that is happening, micromanaging every single thought and emotion, making sure it fits the ideas it has of what will get it to that sweet spot called fulfillment, which is always in the future. It has to know if a scary movie will hinder or help it on it's endless journey to be good enough, it will do neither. It will be just what it is and it so perfectly is. 


  7. 18 hours ago, Demeter said:

    @traveler , so if I want to surrender to such an experience (which I am sure to encounter again) what would you suggest? For me to accept the void is challenging in many ways. First, I need to acknowledge that I am of no value (at least the value I had placed on myself) that there is no one watching over me or cares where I drift, i.e., there is no great loving presence or intelligence. That in itself defeats the purpose of acceptance. If there is no better way, why the need to surrender to anything?

    All I can say is - Holy shit! Is this it? How horrible!

    I can not suggest anything, but notice that it doesn't actually exist, only as a memory. If I where to give you advice I'd have to try to remember what that experience was like, If I don't try to remember it, it doesn't exist. This is that void that you remember, but it is not an idea. The "void" is not somewhere else, it doesn't have a particular feeling or attribute, it isn't a "thing," it is simply whatever is arising and it has no need for acceptance. It can look ordinary like drinking a cup of coffee or it can look like whatever a mystical experience looks like, one is not more "the void" than the other. 

    What is often shown in such an experience is that nothing can be held onto, so learn from that and let it go


  8. 20 minutes ago, VeganAwake said:

    Is it possible that the idea of eternal being is just a projection of the illusory "I" or conditioned mind?

    Could that be a possibility?

     

    Yes, but it is also quite possible that it points to something beyond the illusory "I." Nothing can really be said about non-duality, so on forums like this ideas like these are what keeps us hanging around. Just like your posts, my posts, and everyone else's posts nothing of it actually matters, we are already steeped in what we try to express. 


  9. Seeking is what is longed for appearing as seeking, so seeking to get rid of seeking is what keeps the wheel of seeking turning. It is a loop of seeking. The seeking energy has this intrinsic feeling that something is missing, so it seeks for something to make that feeling go away, unaware that the seeking itself is the cause of this discontent.

    This is perfectly what is longed for when there is no one left to say that it isn't. 

     


  10. 2 hours ago, mandyjw said:

    They don't mean to trivialize life. It's hilarious to realize that we have such strong connotations for the word meaningless, when it just "means"...  no meaning. So we put this sad, nihilistic sort of meaning over "meaningless" and in doing so give meaning to the word meaningless! xD

    Interesting observation!

    Non-words such as helpless, pointless, meaningless etc. are paradoxical/ungettable in nature, like "non-duality" these non-words point to the lack of something. The individual in it's dream of opposites puts meaning onto everything, including "meaningless." Because meaning points to something it is categorised as positive, and because meaningless points to nothing it is categorised as negative.

    "Negative" is also a "non word" as it points to the absence of something. Another definition of "negative" is: something not desirable or optimistic. It is interesting how in the dream of the individual words that don't point to something but rather to nothing have bad connotations. This in the end comes down to the fear of death/unknowing I guess. 


  11. Jims message (which doesn't belong to Jim) is beyond God. God doesn't even know what it is.

    Liberation is the end of God's search for itself, it is the death of God, AKA "me" "you" "we" "us" etc. What is left is what is, just without the looking/separation.

    In other words, God doesn't need to realize itself, it can't, that is it's dream. It is perfectly whole not realizing itself, the suffering comes from the separation that is created when there is a need to.


  12. 3 hours ago, Demeter said:

    @WelcometoReality , yes. Only I existed. Which was scary to say the least. Imagine the immense loneliness.

     

    Immense loneliness is an experience/feeling, it comes and goes. Therefore, it isn't absolute.

    I have experienced infinite loneliness a few times, it is terrifying, but it’s not real/fixed. It is a reaction. Grasping for something in nothing creates an experience of fullness, but without the freedom/lightness of emptiness. 

     


  13. 30 minutes ago, Someone here said:

    Advaita means nonduality. As a teaching it points to the original teachers and resources (ramana maharshi.. Rama Krishna.. The vedas etc) all the teachers you mentioned above are neo advaita. 

    Maybe, but there is a fundamental difference between the group of people that I mentioned. Tony Parsons and people alike are often referred to as Neo Advaita by the aforementioned teachers. The label means little, the difference is most important. 


  14. There is no right or wrong with this, take a look into both and see what you resonate with. Advaita is a teaching of becoming, Neo Advaita points out that there is no one to become. If you are here to better yourself then Advaita, If you are here for Advaita then Neo Advaita. 

    I had to edit my post and point out what I mean when I say Advaita and Neo Advaita. When you search on Google for Neo Advaita teachers, Rupert Spira and Gangaji show up, they may be Neo Advaita I'm not sure, but they were not who I meant by it.

    With Advaita I mean teachers such as Mooji, Adyashanti, Gangaji, Rupert Spira, Eckhart Tolle, you know the famous bunch. 

    With Neo Advaita I mean speakers such as Tony Parsons, Jim Newman, Andreas Muller. 


  15. 3 minutes ago, WaveInTheOcean said:

    So are "you" - just by nature of writing these meaningless words:>

    Who's still in the dream of seperation? 

    You said it yourself: there is nobody here. You are speaking to yourself as 'whatever you wanna call the ineffable'.

    ----

    "The deepest awakening is Infinite Love"

    The deepest awakening/Infinite Love is at the same time:

    now  / nothing / ever-present / what-is
    &
    'my past DMT-trip' / 'my future DMT-trip/mystical experience' / something / hard-to-get / what isn't 

    :D

    I'll take an impossible shot:

    Everything is IT.
    Everything is God.
    Which is me, you, everything, nothing, Love, etc.
    However, some *perceived* part of 'IT' (even though there are no parts) are more "God-like"; that is: more aware of itself as IT.
    The parts of God not so aware of IT are deliberately designed to be so.

    After all, what all this can be best described as is by analogy of a game. 

    Existence is playful. Life is a game. Play it how you wanna. The highest game is the one where you try not to play.
    Within the game it is possible to become aware of the game itself by doing certain "things" (i.e. just gaining experience through living live, taking psychedelics, etc.) . This is what awakening is. However, everyone else playing the game rather unconsciously are just as much God/Infinite Love as you are. After all, it is all you, God, your way, God's way.

    Who's waking up? God. Who's asleep? God. 
    You.

    Thank you, I enjoyed reading that, but this is of course just gobbledygook aswell.

    And I'm not taking this seriously, you know, all of this talk about who is awake and who is not. I like challenging perceived authority, especially when it is "spiritual" and many people are open and vulnerable; suggestible to whatever Leo says.

    Leo holds a lot of power, with this power comes great responsibility. ?.

     


  16. 6 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

    I don't care how you look.

    Awww

    7 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

    I don't care what form you are in. It is you who should care.

    I don't know if you're joking or if you just don't get it.

    8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

    Cute games you play

    Thanks, but don't give me all the credit!

    8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

    but the fact remains you are very far from Infinite Consciousness, and that is what you really want without even knowing it.

    If it is infinite, what is it that is very far from it? What is separate from infinity??????? What are you imagining is writing this right now???? Probably a separate conscious living entity. 

    13 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

    You are fooling yourself that you are awake and inventing pleasant stories for why you shouldn't awaken deeply.

    Maybe... Who cares? 

    15 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

    If you don't want to awaken deeper, then why are you here? You could be watching TV and eating Cheetos or something.

    It just is what is apparently happening and nobody is here.


  17. On 25.2.2021 at 0:20 AM, Leo Gura said:

    You are not infinitely conscious right now. So spare me the neo-Advaita platitudes.

    Notice that you are definitely not infinitely consciousness. At least admit it to yourself if not to me.

    I'm not, but the only one that matters to is the human I am dressed up as. Your mistake is to think that I'm supposed to look a certain way. You're a knowledge addict, you need those hits of understanding, that is why you prefer me in a mystical form rather than this form. This form is exactly where Love is.

    See? I can talk God language too! Personal pronouns or impersonal ones, it doesn't actually matter, you can't get closer or further away from what is, there is no need for anyone to GET that. Words are sneaky, what is pointed to isn't found in anything it is everything, so it isn't found in the words, it is the words. The pointing is the pointed to.


  18. 8 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

    The deepest awakening is Infinite Love. If you got it, it would kill you and there's be nothing left but Love forever. This Love would love itself forever without any problems. The human you would be so dead you could not even remember it or miss it. It would literally be Heaven, precisely because you would be gone.

    But before you go worrying about all this, how about you lock down a tiny shallow awakening? ;)

    Don't waste your time on pipe dreams.

    "Would do, would do, would be, would be." You're still in the dream of seperation, duality; the relative seperate from the absolute. OR you're consciously being a ?, but I don't think so.

     


  19. Infinite consciousness is misleading. It looks as if it could be understood, an infinite "thing" called consciousness. There is no infinite "thing". The word "infinity" alone without the added "consciousness" is better. What infinity points to is unknowable, which is why it is a good word. You can create any concept you want around that, and then discard it, because infinity can not be understood. Infinity is what is writing this, reading this, displaying this, noticing this, feeling this, bla bla bla. There is no path to what is already.