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Why are you guys so enraged by a different POV? Aren't we supposed to be open minded on here? What if the election was fraudulent? You haven't even considered that because your on the side of the winner. You have confirmation bias, everything you hear reinforces your position, which limits your perception. Social media is designed to feed your own beliefs to you, so if you don't actively seek to learn about the POV of someone with another belief system, you'll never understand where they are coming from and you'll never have empathy. You'll just be contributing to the chaos like most other human beings are doing, by being selfish.
I don't get it, I don't have a strong opinion on politics and I'm not from America, so when I read most of the stuff on here relating politics It feels just like reading comments on Twitter. Just one side shit talking the other, reinforcement of seperation, too much attachment.
Trumps is no good.
Biden is no good.
Everybody loses, no one is right, there you go.
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Everything that is alternative to public discourse on Covid 19 is instantly labelled a conspiracy theory. Do your own research and actually listen to what these "conspiracy theorists" have to say, they often have pretty good evidence that something is going on behind the scenes.
The media is controlled by few big companies; read https://techstartups.com/2020/09/18/6-corporations-control-90-media-america-illusion-choice-objectivity-2020/.
I see people on here acting all spiritual and open minded, but when it comes to politics they get so defensive, biased and narrow minded. Many people just eat up and accept whatever is in the news. They're so occupied defending their political positions and societal views, that they get blind to the fact they are sheep screaming BAA Baaa baaaa back and forth, while their shepherd is making their enclosure smaller and smaller before their eyes.
Watch this video and make up you're own mind https://www.bitchute.com/video/4bwTCk5pOiup/. You don't have to believe it all but there is something there, if you have an open mind. Many will see that it is David Icke and instantly turn it off but it is not him, but the man he interviews that is the interesting part.
So if you want to respond to your friend, I advice you to look at the evidence that is out there supporting her claims.
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Just loved this qoute by Jim Newman.
Here's the vid:
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2 hours ago, JayySur said:So am I creating this bullshit story (that I also believe will happen) about going back to this “stuck” sense of reality and never being able to escape from it and return back to the world of form and other beings?
Correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds like your concern comes from a remembrance of a mystical experience/insight that you once had. That "bullshit story" is not yours but rather a consequence of the knowing entity (me) having to recollect what apparently happened.
You see, there is no real returning of the "me." It is boundless energy appearing separate and limited which creates the illusion of me, the world and other beings. You can never escape home, home can just appear as if it isn't home. When you have a mystical experience you don't leave here and go somewhere else, it is just the absolute appearing that way, it can appear mundane and mystical and so on, it's boundless. Boundless energy is what is now, and now, and now, and now, there is never a REAL need to change or do anything, that need is the illusion of "me." This is will not change anything, it won't make you feel good, these words do not point to something mystical or extreme, they literally point to nothing, and that is the point. What you seek is seeking.
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On 9.1.2021 at 3:24 PM, VeganAwake said:I completely understand what you mean ❤
Yes it's a recognition.
Not a replacing of paradigms, a collapsing of paradigms due to the recognition that the only thing that believes in paradigms is a conditioned thought.
I'm in the US Navy and if I went to work talking about "nothing matters" I would probably end up with a mental health discharge.
Before Enlightenment chop wood carry water after Enlightenment chop wood carry water.
Before Enlightenment one must roll the boulder up the hill after Enlightenment one must still roll the boulder up the hill. What has changed? The resistance to what is!
Heck, there can even be resistance, it's that free. But it's not someone apparently resisting, its resistance itself. Resistance and acceptance become equally meaningless.
Yeah, I guess it could be described as an end of resistance/distance/seperation to what is. Nothing really changes, there is no higher point of view from where these words are written, they just unfold effortlessly as merely a part of what is apparently happening. Everything written from past experiences from insights and teachings does not resonate, because it is in opposition to reality's ever changing nature, words must unfold naturally without going through a filter of the "me," then it can resonate with something beyond the "me."
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12 hours ago, VeganAwake said:Beware of what the half-truth fairy.
There's no such thing as half truth because there isn't a whole truth.
Truth is a man-made concept of the mind. There's just what is.
Nothing matters in any way at all.
You could spend the rest of your life sitting on the couch eating cookies and watching p*** or become the president of the United States... it does not matter in any way at all.
The only thing that places meaning purpose and value on anything is a conditioned thought.
The thoughts place an illusory overlay on top of reality and operate from that perception. ❤
It's just seemingly important for me to point out that the "neo-advaita" way of thinking can replace your old paradigm with a new "awakened" paradigm. If you apply the nothing matters paradigm in your day to day life you might find that it isn't suitable for your relationships, goals and other stuff. Maybe it is suitable, what do I know. What I meant with half truth is getting stuck at viewing things in a certain kind of way, when really, reality is not in any way at all.
I know what you might think, you might think that I don't get it or that I'm still yet to wake up or something, maybe your right, but what I'm saying is to remember that "normal" life is BOTH real and unreal, to give the real the space to have meaning, purpose and value and to know still that it really doesn’t.
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1 hour ago, VeganAwake said:It's wonderful and simultaneously lacks any meaning value or purpose whatsoever. ❤
Beware of half-truths! That is a true statement on behalf of THE ALL/The absolute, but while you're in the body in the infinite's finite dream there is laws, and polarity (meaninglessness and meaning, purposelessness and purpose, value and disregard).
"Keep your mind ever on the Star, but let your eyes watch over your footsteps, lest you fall into the mire by reason of your upward gaze."
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11 hours ago, How to be wise said:No such thing. If you contemplate for a while, I think you’ll realise this as well.
Read the quote below that one.
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“Death is not real, even in the Relative sense — it is but Birth to a new life — and You shall go on, and on, and on, to higher and still higher planes of life, for aeons upon aeons of time. The Universe is your home, and you shall explore its farthest recesses before the end of Time.”
“Oh, friends, to mortals this Universe of Mentality is very real indeed — it is the only one we can ever know, though we rise from plane to plane, higher and higher in it. To know it otherwise, by actual experience, we must be THE ALL itself. It is true that the higher we rise in the scale — the nearer to "the mind of the Father" we reach — the more apparent becomes the illusory nature of finite things, but not until THE ALL finally withdraws us into itself does the vision actually vanish.”
“This is the Paradox of the Universe, resulting from the Principle of Polarity which manifests when THE ALL begins to Create — hearken to it for it points the difference between half-wisdom and wisdom. While to THE INFINITE ALL, the Universe, its Laws, its Powers, its Life, its Phenomena, are as things witnessed in the state of Meditation or Dream; yet to all that is Finite, the Universe must be treated as Real, and life, and action, and thought, must be based thereupon, accordingly, although with an ever understanding of the Higher Truth. Each according to its own Plane and Laws. Were THE ALL to imagine that the Universe were indeed Reality, then woe to the Universe, for there would be then no escape from lower to higher, divineward — then would the Universe become a fixity and progress would become impossible. And if Man, owing to half-wisdom, acts and lives and thinks of the Universe as merely a dream (akin to his own finite dreams) then indeed does it so become for him, and like a sleep-walker he stumbles ever around and around in a circle, making no progress, and being forced into an awakening at last by his falling bruised and bleeding over the Natural Laws which he ignored. Keep your mind ever on the Star, but let your eyes watch over your footsteps, lest you fall into the mire by reason of your upward gaze. Remember the Divine Paradox, that while the Universe IS NOT, still IT IS. Remember ever the Two Poles of Truth — the Absolute and the Relative. Beware of half-Truths.”
“So, do not feel insecure or afraid — we are all HELD FIRMLY IN THE INFINITE MIND OF THE ALL, and there is naught to hurt us or for us to fear. There is no Power outside of THE ALL to affect us. So we may rest calm and secure. There is a world of comfort and security in this realization when once attained. Then "calm and peaceful do we sleep, rocked in the Cradle of the Deep" — resting safely on the bosom of the Ocean of Infinite Mind, which is THE ALL. In THE ALL, indeed, do "we live and move and have our being.”
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There is no such thing as nonduality. It points to what it is not: duality. Nonduality is not the opposite of duality. This misinterpretation is the duality which is pointed to.
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8 hours ago, Max1993 said:This is to all the top masters here, after all of your existential discoveries, what remains a deep mystery for you?
Master of what? Being? Yeah, I am and you are too.
Everything is a mystery, the idea of residing in a state of perpetual awe is an ideal seekers strive for. There is nothing wrong with that but that pursuit has no special value, every pursuit is the seekers game. What the seeker seeks is the end of seeking; the conversion to"haver" or"master" or whatever you might wanna call it. Stop seeking and you're here, keep seeking and you're here, seeking.
Were emotions invented or are they an inherent part of the singularity?
Every thought is an invention. "Emotions" is a thought, "Singularity" is a thought.
If the singularity already contains every possible configuration of reality, why would intelligent creation be necessary?
"Reality" is a thought.
Wouldn't a being just pop up somewhere within the eternal structure since infinity has no choice but to exist?
There is no answers to these questions, not REAL answers, just thoughts discussing thoughts.
Have you had a shocking insight about the nature of reality that you cannot find in books or the internet but you know it is true?
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Didn't resonate huh?
The type of revelation that I sense that you're looking for is the kind where the separation between these words and yourself dissapear. You suddenly awaken to the fact that the whole of existence is a singularity exploding infinitely, creating infinite reflections of itself. You realize that none of these profile names are different people giving their two cents, having a guess, no, you realize that these words come from the same source that is reading them, you realize that they are indistinguishable. You can realize all of that, but that is not the "end goal" or "the absolute truth." There is no absolute truth, no state is absolute, every state is absolute. That means that there is no difference between eating cereal and having a mystical experience. Slow down, play with your kids or something.
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Stop focusing on the goal and enjoy the journey. Maybe the goal is the journey. Maybe Maya is Nirvana. Maybe love is closer than you can think.
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The difficulty/predicament that the seeker finds himself in is the intense need to get something in order to get rid of something. There is no end to how deep this psychic reality can go, it is a loop. I for one have a very close family member who is deep in a tormenting bubble of seeking, he is oblivious to what I am saying because he is opsessed with getting, and this you can not get. The message can not be heard by that energy but the message might slowly dissolve that energy, not so much the message but an energy of peace and silence slowing down the clockwork of the opposite.
There just really is nothing to do. If you just stopped for a moment what would be left? This question looks useful on the surface but it doesn't work, because you would be there looking for the answer to what was left. It's kind of how things are occuring here, for "me," it's like there is less and less fuel for that desperate energy of needing to know. Nothing is revealed, this doesn't suddenly make total sense, it is just the end of that resisting force.
One start could be stop participating in this forum, that is what happened here when the seeking died down.
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Life is unpredictable, keep in mind that what you're experiencing is only temporary; the state that you're in now is not the state you'll be in in a year. Take mindful breaths and relax. Get the help that you need and find the positive in the situation, maybe your mind is more silent, maybe your body is more relaxed etc.
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8 hours ago, VeganAwake said:Absolutely, and truth seems to be an ever-changing infinite potential rather than something solid(truth is constant change)...so truth is THIS or What IS. Quick story: My friend told me over the phone that he was excited to experience the natural self without ego, I told him the natural self is the ego... How can what's happening be argued with as unnatural right?...
So in that sense identification as an individual and or awakening are equally natural(as in one isn't better than the other).
There is nothing unnatural, there's just THIS or the Dao.
Every path is the path ❤
Hehe yes ? It is so simple, yet totally unknowable and indescribable because there is no distance between you and it.
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1 minute ago, Dodo said:You dont get it man, do you even understand what Fast horse Slow horse is?
Its deeper than you. You do not know it all. Nobody knows it all. She has us all. We are all Equal under Her. But some aspects of us are out of line with Her and she wanted me to share with Leo and the rest to start aligning with Love more and True Love does not claim Godhood. We are anchoring darkness of black holes and poison when She is the Light in the middle and she is like so beautiful. Like Heaven.... I have only seen by Her grace, by Her spirit guide. By Her GLORY. Not alone, I can not do it alone.
And I need Leo's help for ascending the whole planet man, for the Glory of our Creator. We will be added onto her, the entire Earth is a jewel of extremely high vibration. If we all work together as one and raise the frequency. We can even defeat viruses!
Obviously if the spirit of Love is guiding me to post to Leo, then that is who I need to post, I do not bow to "traveler" , Nor Leo. The Game is deeper than you think
Alright man, I'm not trying to burst your bubble, maybe a little, but not really. You can have all of that, it is all for you. Live that vision to the fullest, save the world.
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13 minutes ago, VeganAwake said:And that's what's being experienced there bud.
It felt perfectly spot on here.
Yes of course, and that is a great way of putting it. Neither of us can tell the truth, we are just different expressions of the same thing. The concepts doesn’t matter at all.
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4 minutes ago, Dodo said:Dude I am not worshipping Leo Gura, I only worship the Spirit of True Love.
I just made a connection, it must be the same Spirit Leo is moving with. Haha! I guess God Got us both
We can be friends. She has us all. Only bow to Her, Leo Gura. The Spirit that I bow to - Not Leo Gura. Not Dodo. Her!
My point still stands, you have an obvious obsession with Leo, if you really awoke you would realize that awakening has nothing to do with Leo. There wouldn't be such a strong need to get Leo's approval and to convert him if it was an authentic awakening and not just a fleeting experience of hightened consciousness.
This is not only directed at you but I've seen several people worshipping Leo. Don't get me wrong, he's brilliant and has a beautiful way with words, but what you worship in him is what is speaking now. There is only that, it belongs to no one.
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1 minute ago, Dodo said:He knows, we are playing a higher level game here on a different dimension. I have not taken any drugs. How am I doing it? Leo? Would you believe me? If you are the one possessing me, then you are the spirit of True Love? oh my GOd but ofcourse! Oh my! So it is Leo teaching Leo true love. That's so meta.
Jesus dude, I'm not trying to be a nuisance but you sound deluded. Try and relax and ground your attention. I think it is really worrying and strange that a fair amount of people on here worship Leo as a God or something higher than everyone else. It is very cult like, and I honestly don't get why he and the mods let's it happen. It is incredibly irresponsible and down right weird that this behaviour is ignored and acceptable. Is everyone totally brainwashed on here or what? @Leo Gura why do you condone this kind of worshipping, this guy is obviously delusional?
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@Dodo You're just spewing out keywords with CAPS LOCK.
Why are you so obsessed with Leo?
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While he is visibly overwhelmed by the awakening I wouldn't call it psychotic. What "he" is saying is what everything is saying, there is only the eternal presence being itself. I definitely wouldn't trip with Leo as this energy seems pretty intense and chaotic, I bet the awakening has been integrated more now. The awakening to truth is always a surprise, so I guess you'll never actually now how you'd react, though from experience awakenings are less shocking when you've had a deep breakthrough before.
Edit: from a relative perspective, this is totally psychotic. From a higher perspective it is just an avatar having insane clarity.
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This is somewhat romanticised for the sake of the video. It gives of the vibe of ""ego" shouldn't be," "ego bad, no ego good." There is no ego, the one who tries to find the one is the one. It is all a play of the eternal dao, as they say. Freedom is the end of fighting agaisnt the fight between good and evil.
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I experience this aswell, partly because I sleep very poorly and have a hard time breathing comfortably in the morning. I've tried just sitting/meditating and focusing on my breath, it kind of helps stop the chatter. Also if you have the habit of looking at your phone the second you awake, maybe try and stop doing that. Pick up a hobby, something your energy can flow into besides non duality and enlightenment, it could be drawing, singing, cooking, whatever... The non duality and enlightenment business is filled with traps at every corner. It is almost impossible to not get more neurotic, disoriented and ungrounded when your only interest is finding out why "you" exists and what "this" is. The freedom is in my experience in "ordinary" being(as in what is already), living, feeling, smelling, hearing, seeing, it is everything you can think of and not think of. Non duality is in my opinion used as escapism a lot, it is just a way to neglect the nitty gritty realness of the ordinary.
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You don't actually know that. That is the point.