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    Just take everything with a grain of salt. Non duality can not be understood nor teached, what is impossible for the "me" to understand is that everything is unknown already. Every teachings adds to your library of conceptual knowledge. How can non duality be understood when it literally points to not two? There has to be a subject and an object/a distance; duality, for something to be known. This isn't a finding, it is the death of the illusory "me" in the body that claims that this is dual.

    It is just what it is, the final bit of knowledge that will destroy your doubt forever is a dream. There is no end, this will never be known, it doesn't need too, it is without boundaries, it has no requirements, unconditional Love.

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    You already are infinite unconditional love and there is no reality outside or inside of you, and there isn't a you.. All there is is absolute and whole, there is no infinite unconditional love, that is just a word pointing to _______. All words will do, no words comes closer to ______ than others. You can't use this at all, so it will either be resonated with or pushed away because it leaves you starving for knowing, for something to grasp. That is why you like concepts like death, infinite love, god and so on, because all words can be conceptualised and exotic/big words meets your requirements/ideas of what you think needs to happen for you to be whole/enlightened, ______ is not a concept though. 

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    25 minutes ago, VeganAwake said:

    I wasn't giving advice, I was making a statement.

    Any advice given to the separate sense of "self" such as stop seeking or seek harder only perpetuates its illusory existence, and keeps Maya or the Illusion intact.

    I agree it does seem that a curiosity/inquiry/desire/suffering plays a key role.

    It was obviously the suffering aspect for Eckhart Tolle for example.

    "And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you. For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened." -- Luke 11:9-13

    Jesus said, "Let him who seeks continue seeking until he finds. When he finds, he will become troubled. When he becomes troubled, he will be astonished, and he will rule over the All." -- Gospel of Thomas

    Here it was recognized the one seeking wasn't real. That seeking energy collapsed and it was simultaneously recognized the seeker never actually existed... it was simply a misidentification. ❤

     

    The seeker and the seeking is one and the same, it is the illusory reality that seeking/the seeker lives in that creates a distinction between the two, the seeker and the sought. 

    The incredible thing is that it is never actually revealed, the personal energy just falls away with no conclusion, nothing to recognize.

    No one knows that it is unknowable, it just is. Every attempt to get it is just an energy arising saying that it needs something, it's not actually real, it doesn't actually matter at all, only to the one looking. 

    Can't talk about it, it just is too everything to even come close to with words.

     

  5. Posted · Edited by traveler

    2 hours ago, FlowerNote said:

    If  we are talking non duality Love should then also be imaginary? Or am I getting lost in the semantics.

    Non duality points to the end of real duality, but you don't become something called non dual, it is non dual because it points to the unknowability of what is when it is not dual. Unconditional love fits well.

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    Nothing can be proven, because nothing is real. The subject object reality of me here and someone else over there experiencing another reality, is a dream. There is no actuality to it other than in the dream of the words. The words are appearing from apparent separate users on the forum, but they are all equally empty of an actual doer behind them writing them and empty of actual meaning and substance, because what is pointed to is not in that dream of understanding something, it is the actuality of this unknowable everything appearing as these words, this chair, etc. Whatever is, is all there is.

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    The joy of being is infinite. You can resonate and feel it with your being, but you can never know it as you can know a thought or memory or a chair. You are not separate from this unconditional love/joy, it is almost as if you are too full and involved in the joy of being that you can't separate yourself from it and recognize it. The love that everything is can never be truly appreciated, because you are it. If this really touches the core it's impossible goodness will kill you. It is beautiful beyond comprehension, unconditional love is so much bigger and more wholly beautiful than you could ever imagine. It can not be spoken of and it can not be understood, but something can resonate and the experience of being separate from life can lessen or dissolve.

    The suffering one is unconditional love appearing as that, it sucks for that experience but it is empty, so when it stops happening it never happened.

    I love you, the love has brought tears to my eyes. 

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    Unconditional love, not the fluffy pink love that "I" want. That is not satisfying for "me" though, because every question and answer dies in that. There is really no free will and real time and space where "I" am responsible for doing x y and z and where x y and z really happened. Hanging on to x y and z and making x y and z personal is the dream. When x becomes y, x never happened. When y becomes z, y never happened.

    Ask yourself: y do I not z that x is x y and z? Contemplate that, it is very deep stuff. 

  13. Posted · Edited by traveler

    I would describe the dark night of the soul as the fight against existential hopelessness after awakening, Aka. Getting your head caught in the tigers mouth and fighting to get out. This period will suck you dry of any hope to escape or achieve liberation, it will leave you nothing, but that nothing is the freedom that were always longed for. When the fighting comes to an end nothing is revealed in the sense that you hoped, the fight just comes to an end, you stop fighting with life, with the inevitable. In the end there is just what is, it was all just a dream, "your path," "your life" "your suffering" everything was and is just passing appearances, formlessness changing form, unknowable unconditional love being. 

    Depression is hard to describe as it varies from person to person, I guess that it is more of a personal sense of hopelessness and not existential or as deep as the dark night of the soul.

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    2 minutes ago, allislove said:

    @zeroISinfinity sure, there is no difference, but there is appearance now and it's possible to have no appearance. 

    Something is nothing and nothing is something. I am just saying when you are identified with a human body it may be not possible to merge with a strong feeling of pain.

    There is not appearance now, only apparently. 

    No need to merge with anything,  you're already dead.

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    The one who suffers is illusory, it has no consequence other than for the illusory one who suffers. All there is is unconditional love, there is no other. There is no end, no escape, nowhere to go. You can't escape all there is (because you are not separate from it). The suffering is unconditional love appearing as an experience of a separate "me" in a real world looking for unconditional love/wholeness, it is just a temporary passing of appearance that never happened. Nothing ever happened; real and unreal; unknowable; this.

  19. Posted · Edited by traveler

    On 9.8.2020 at 6:43 PM, WaveInTheOcean said:

    Of course it's a path. It's the path of least resistance ?

    What is pointed to is not a path, it is the end of any need for a path to get somewhere. It is really close to the least resistance bit, but I wouldn't call it a path. It is the end of heaven pretending like it is hell. ?

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    It is letting go of trying to change what is. To make what is fit your idea of perfection. Perfection is already all there is, nothing needs to be done for perfection to be. What is pointed to is simple beyond conception, it is the death of the need to know. 

    Nothing needs to be gotten rid of, every problem that apparently is a barrier between you and wholeness is illusory. It is an energy in the body creating an experience of a personal lack, it is an apparent separation from everything, but that too is wholeness.

    Duality=me and the world.

    You can't do it, freedom is already, life is just happening you don't have to realise that life is happening, it is just happening. 

    There is a lot of storytelling and dreaming apparently going on on this forum, the answer is not on this forum, this forum is everything appararing as a forum.

    "The end of the seeking is the end of the seeker, is the end of the experience, that 'this' is real."- Jim Newman.  

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    9 minutes ago, WaveInTheOcean said:

    Sure, but so is every other 'search' in your life, even the path of not trying to search, hehe.

    Not trying to search is not a path. Not trying to search = Not on a path. 

    Trying not to search is different, here there is someone searching to stop searching, and that is right, all seeking is equally pointless. 

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    8 hours ago, Kalki Avatar said:

    @traveler Dont fool yourself so easily. 

    Why not? Who is making the rules? Who is afraid of getting this wrong? Who is fooling itself? 

    Authority gets destroyed when the person falls away, it is the end of the games. 

    No one has the truth, that is the last thing you want to hear, but it is also the freedom and unconditional love that is longed for, but you can't have it.

    Giving others the authority of supreme knowing is a security blanket for 'me', at least I know that there is a truth that will some day make me whole: There isn't, there is only wholeness, which can appear as anything including an experience of lacking wholeness. 

  23. Posted · Edited by traveler

    Yea, there are probably a couple of sociopaths claiming to be enlightened. People are attracted to them because they play the role so well.

    Every person claiming to be enlightened are frauds, apparently.

    This is just play, bearded people sitting on thrones acting like they have something that you need to become like them, subtlety implying that you're not whole already.  

    The search for enlightenment is an illusory reality, everything dreaming.

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    Now stay there. You don't even have to stay there, you're already there, and there is no there. Shallow tips and tricks to get out of "your" situation will do nothing, they come from a place of ignorance in terms of understanding existential meaninglessness/hopelessness. There is no prescription here, being fucked is happening, now stay fucked, the loop is constantly denying what is and looking for a better "what is" to come.