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Why can't one skip green and transition directly into yellow? I'm at green atm, at it sucks, I just don't know why I'm stucked here when I know the hypocricy of it, the ideological and moralistic nonsense.

Did you have to end any relationships that didn't approve of your New lifestyle? Parents, relatives, friends, all of them approved.

@tsuki Bob Dylan says.. "Reality has too many heads" "all the truth in the world add up to one big lie" Are these quotes turquoise?

Come on Ether! Pop one of your anti depressant pills and go along and have fun with us. You would enjoy it, you can always claim everything is maya, and not engage. But you can also have fun and engage in Maya. Your decicion dude.

@Ether Apparently, stop talking your meds and antidepressant was clearly not a good move. Spiral Dynamics is one of the best piece of knowledge there is about the human psyche. Stop attack people. You live in Portugal? Have you ever met Mooji? Or have you been to his place where he live and held his satsangs?

Lol! Rant goes meta! ?

Love you Ether! But the others are right also, Love them too. The understanding and research behind spiral dynamics is rigorous. It tells us alot of human conscios development. But it's good to have a "fuck all this concepts and mental masturbation, fuck that shit" beneath it all. You see what I mean?

Well, many people all over the globe claim that there are more then just the initial two tiers to Spiral Dynamics. Some say there may be numeorous of tiers, and that we yet have to find out how many? What I'm interesting in is third tier, is there and good book or video material on This subject? As I understand it, the second tier starts with yellow, Then followed by turquoise and finally second tier ends with the "Coral". Those are the three stages within second tier, right? Now, what Then follows is third tier. I understand that not many things are written or recorded about it. But if we gather everything we find regarding third tier in spiral dynamics, This thread might be a good read. Help me! ?

Ah, got it! I had it almost the other way around(three in 2nd, two in 3rd) I'm updated now. Gonna be lovely to dig deep into third tier, cool with four stages.

Haha, I would like to see a meme on that! Could you do it for me? ??

Thanks, I'll check it. Could be worth paying for it, if it offers great insights into third tier. A friend of mine Say that there are only two stages(colours) in third tier. Hence, fourth tier is already around the corner once you start studying third! ?

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@White @John Iverson @Outer @Ether Controlled opposition, find out for yourself (((who))) you (or anyone else, like Alex Jones) can't criticise! Otherwise he(Jones) wouldn't be successful. I'm not sure if it's even allowed to answer your question here. But this is the place of truth, and this is the answer to your question! So if there's anywhere in the world where it can be mentioned, it's probably here..

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This is a very i interesting question. When you Transcend your ego, you transcend your whole story. And you transcend thoughts about "who" you are. And once enlightened, when you rest in presence, when you live in the NOW, do you even remember "who" "you" once were??? Because if you die ego death and become enlightened But remember who you use to be, then you at least have the memory. But if you will lose every trace of who you were, not even have a singel memory what it was like to be that ego, Then you really really die when you become enlightened I don't know if I want to die in such a complete way, at least I want to have a memory what it was like to be me. To end the story scare me very much. Is it any middle way to become enlightened, where you can Keep the story of "you" and only kill the other parts of the ego?

Maybe so! We cut out the good parts, cover up the bad parts of the history that we like, and recycle it for more Then it's worth.

Yup, That's the right direction. Thank you!

Good answer!

Thanks Colin! Yeah, it came from my heart! It was pure. But other posts I made might be nonsense. I mix it up pretty well. I'm the kind of guy who are serious only now and Then. ?

You are my fellow countryman. I thought we were friends? Specially now in the times of world cup in soccer. Sweeds shouldn't attac each other. I find your comment slightly offensive, specially since I concider myself enlightened these days..

Identification with a story(thought story). It creates the illusion of separateness. It's sad, indeed.

Movement of thought/self aka ego?

@Rilles

You're right, I mean red of Course, we have talked so much about blue at This forum lately so I write blue out of habit even though I mean Red! ? I'll change it..

@Rilles Do you like jaffarbyn Rilles?