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lie flat on your back, breathe through your belly, and deliberately slow your exhales. exhale REALLY slow. like, 10+ seconds of air leaving your nostrils don't "try" to fall asleep. Just slow tf down and let it come to you

Perfect example of blindly trusting the experts, and MAHA's negative image only doing a disservice to the truth

So it's a shame that people will continue to slam seed oils (or god forbid defend them as good for you) without considering that it might actually be harmful. There's already a stigma going around academic circles branding seed oil skeptics as "conspiratorial," and RFK's image is not helping. I agree. seed oils will never go away. the genie is out of the bottle, so to speak. if we waved a magic wand and erased all seed oils, the entire food supply chain would collapse over night and 99% of restaurants will go out of business. so our entire society is codependent on and built atop a foundation of seed oils now. And yet, it may be the case that seed oils are harmful nonetheless. In which case, I would hope that individuals are given the choice of making an informed decision about what they put in their bodies But academia and nutritionist circles still defend seed oils and go out of their way to smear seed oil skeptics, lumping them in with anti-vaxxers and such. Indulge me for a second and let's just assume that seed oils are actually harmful for humans. If that's the case, then our current information climate gives rise to a shitty epistemic cesspool where if you listen to the experts, you will get vaccinated (good) and chug seed oils (bad), but if you listen to the conspiracy theorists, you will avoid vaccines (bad) and avoid seed oils (good). In either case, the mind is corrupted and the outcomes are sub-optimal. of course, this is a wider issue than just one ingredient. As you know, companies do everything to take shortcuts and obscure externalities. If there is a "serious political issue" here, it would be the lack of transparency driving profit which gives rise to the cesspool of an information climate that forces individuals to figure it out for themselves (but often they won't figure it out, and just follow a popular talking point, which is almost always partial or flawed) If food companies came clean with everything they put in our foods and its full transparent ramifications, there would be outrage and blood. and so that will never happen :]

these are actually genuine risk factors yeah this is dumb also dumb this is good this is garbage app = wasted effort; takes 3 seconds to read the label and notice red40. generally a good habit overall you make a good point my stance is to stack the small meaningful habits (avoiding red40 is actually a conscious move. Of course, that by itself wont "cure" you of anything. It's just good fundamentals) and don't fall for the overblown miracle products (no single product will save you)

RFK is wrong about vaccines but right about seed oils. Which is a shame because his wrongness discredits him polarizes people into full-blown conspiratorial RFK fans or mainstream shills that denounce everything RFK says, and neither camp has accurate discernment

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the normies will... but AIGHE am different and unique! (inb4 emerald clocks me for repressing ordinariness and trying to distinguish myself as extraordinary)

No, he clearly loves solitude more than the majority of humans. Yes, but some rare humans actually love solitude more than the rest of us Don't strawman Leo by conflating his highest value with your teenage inexperience

Yes that's me as well I do think Leo's actually different though Leo is a GIGA-nerd about independence of mind. It's one of his highest values. Given that the foundation of relationship is group-think (literally), it would be a natural roadblock towards Leo's entire MO. Obviously the forum supplements some sort of socialization need for him. but that doesn't contradict his desire to mostly be alone in contemplation

@Natasha Tori Maru Yes, my current way of eating is the nexus of time-efficiency, mental-energy-efficiency, cost-efficiency, tastemaxxing, moodmaxxing, gymmaxxing, and sustainability. I plan to eat this way for the rest of my life, unless something goes wrong and an issue arises (in which case I will admit "I was wrong" and make appropriate adjustments) or otherwise an even better way of eating is discovered and I will jump on that (doubt it. I've already personally experimented with most other ways of eating, and decided they're not for me) I am a strong believer in different needs for different people. If someone just tried to copy my cronometer diet from that screenshot, they will probably have a bad time, because it's so hyper-tailored to me. Still - some principles are universal nonetheless. Generally speaking, if you eat whole-foods single-ingredient meats and plants, you will thrive in comparison to the default paradigm which is buying premade meals and snacks in boxes and bags + eating out or ordering from restaurants (God knows what shit they put in there)

@aurum My bad, you're right Switching to white rice (in my unique case) preserves Calcium, Magnesium, and Zinc specifically

I'm open to that. I've tested fiber on top of my current diet by flirting with root vegetables like potatoes and carrots, as well as incrementally introducing inulin powder, but so far it adds nothing in terms of gut and digestion and fibermaxxing is out of the question because I'm not willing to pound leaves and stems and seeds (I grew up on a plant based diet, it's not right for me) How would lack of fiber be causative of low energy? genuinely curious Good point True. But don't dismiss the shield paradigm entirely. Many of fiber's positive mechanisms are protective by nature. This is just a fact. Yes

@Natasha Tori Maru I'll ping you in 15 years lol :] Yes Yep that wins people cannot believe i've eaten beef and rice twice a day every day for 3 years straight. that's 2000+ reps back to back lol (365*2*3) my motivation is very simple. I just do what gives me the best results. If I ever find even better results, I will quickly do that other thing instead.

@aurum basically all of my micros come from beef + eggs + salmon + spot supplementation the addition of white rice is completely benign in terms of micro nutrients. It adds nothing (maybe a bit of manganese), but also robs nothing. the addition of brown rice is far more complex. it adds more magnesium, phosphorus, manganese, zinc, B vitamins, and some fiber compared to white rice. but the phytate content (~1–1.5% by weight) is enough to rob half or more of the dietary zinc, iron, calcium, and magnesium found in both the brown rice and the meal it's in. Sounds conspiratorial, but I have good reason to believe that eating beef and eggs by itself will yield more total micronutrients than combining that meal with brown rice when you count the final tally of what your body is actually absorbing. This is why micronutrient RDAs for pure carnivores are actually lower than omnivores and avid plant eaters, and this explains why people like Shawn Baker can thrive on steak and eggs alone for 10+ years. Ok, but let's double back and recheck what brown rice would've added: more magnesium but I already supplement this anyway. Magnesium is one of the few micros that I believe should be supplemented even if you already get it from whole foods sources. this has to do with depletion of minerals in our modern soil. If you look up "magnesium rich foods," you will be directed to nuts, seeds, beans, whole grains, dark leafy greens, etc. But you best believe that black beans 100 years ago had significantly more magnesium than they do today. this is pretty much universal, unless you grow your own plants with good soil management. I'm lazy so I just lean on modern technology once again. But there is still further discernment. Cheap magnesium supplements will use magnesium oxide which is basically unusable by the human body, it's a complete scam. Which is why I invest in an amino acid chelated form. more phosphorus beef has this more manganese this is the one micronutrient that white rice actually has anyway more zinc beef has so much zinc that I risk overdosing on zinc, and I take a copper supplement to offset that B vitamins beef eggs and fish cover most B vitamins nicely. I do have lower thiamine (B1) and folate (B9) but that hasn't proven itself to be an issue yet fiber ..eh given my specific stack, brown rice basically adds nothing and wrecks absorption. By combining white rice (+ pomegranate!) with my animal-based diet, I get the benefits of carnivore without the downsides (keto is suboptimal for hormones and training, and the nonexistent antioxidants will accelerate disease risk)

I have no interest in defending my worldview. just offering the most comprehensive explanation we've got the mainstream narrative that fiber is a pure net positive of additive effects is incomplete Basically, the whole carnivore community is proof that fiber is unnecessary, if not suboptimal. The amount of people that say they cut out plants entirely and their gut digestion got better is jaw dropping. But since pro-fiber advocates cannot explain this, they usually end up denying the evidence or saying "we can't trust anecdotes" or "the studies say otherwise" or even worse, they'll say that carnivore advocates are a "special case" of broken people with IBS who need extreme measures but don't reflect on the rest of us "normal" people. Now that would be self-serving. Although I'm not carnivore, I make sure my paradigms account for the realities of all eating styles. You should be able to explain why carnivore works (and doesn't), as well as why vegan works (and doesn't), and everything in between. From that angle, it's impossible to maintain that all humans must fibermaxx for better outcomes. Thinking of fiber as a shield perfectly explains why most people gain benefits from fiber while some specific groups of people can feel even better on 0 fiber. Note that 0 fiber is not for everybody. To pull off 0 fiber, you need a meat-rich, mostly-single-ingredient minimalist diet. You can't just eat whatever you feel like regarding the claim that "fiber feeds good bacteria and produces beneficial short chain fatty acids," it's not so clear to me how necessary that is. Even short chain fatty acids are a sort of shield. they repair your gut lining and fight inflammation. But personally I would rather just not damage or inflame my gut in the first place

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yes, 100% eggs are a godsend might be a genuine contender for most nutrient dense food on the planet for humans, considering micronutrient variety, quality, and quantity per calorie high-quality eggs are one of the few foods I think every human would benefit from eating (assuming no allergies). the other one would be organic pomegranate (whole or juiced)

@Leo Gura Owen Cook literally says that "ready, fire, aim" is a superior paradigm to the classic "ready, aim, fire" he has a point when it comes to something like approaching girls or building an online business for the first time. are you simply talking about different matters to a different audience? or is Owen deluded?

@Schizophonia yes I was being sarcastic lol your advice is solid. pure action from internal abundance always wins, but in practice it's hard for many of us to embody that because nobody taught us this shit growing up, and we have to backwards-engineer an authentic effortless self-concept through trial and error (most men won't get it right on the first try. even the most successful players eat shit and face brutal rejections. sometimes because of a chemistry mismatch, but often because they got in their own way. and so in that sense you do have to keep trying, but the key is measured persistence rather than neurotic desperation)

@daydrinking feels better, less bloat. simple as that fiber acts as a genuinely powerful shield. it cleans out blood sugar spikes, endotoxins, excess estrogen, oxidized bile acids, etc. Basically if you're prone to pounding sugar, junk food, alcohol, pro-oxidative inputs (seed oils, burnt or processed meat, smoking, etc.), or you're fat/estrogenic (especially high in visceral fat) with low movement or low antioxidants, or you just indulge in standard western diet cheat meals (even if rarely), then you should get more fiber. So yeah most people would benefit a lot from fiber, and dieticians are not wrong for pushing that narrative. Personally, I am none of the above so being shielded or not makes little difference. Think of fiber as a fire hydrant. If you're on fire, you want to drown out the fire with water. But if you're not on fire, then whether or not you spray water makes no difference. If anything, it makes you soggy and uncomfortable (bloated, farting, etc.) but then again, some people swear by high-fiber and I don't want to downplay that either. And if you're a fan of plants, fiber is inevitable. Even though I prefer a beef-centric omnivore approach, plant-based (Mediterranean/whole foods vegetarian) diets still mog standard western diets, don't get it twisted

crazy work lol and what if he's not? 😭 that could be a major hangup. A lot of guys unfortunately count themselves out based on perceived aesthetic inadequacy @Oso let us know what's stopping you

@aurum carbs are generally preferable for male hormone optimization (keto will crush testosterone). Which means you want at minimum 100g carbs to escape ketosis. but that is a mixed-signal limbo state that risks low-energy crashes. So 200g carbs is where you start to feel really good in a sustainable way. But then if you're in the gym every day as I am, there is higher muscle glycogen demand to keep up the intensity and recovery. Thus 300g. At 350+g, I start to pack on fat fast (mostly a calorie issue). Thus 300g is where I achieve energy equilibrium starch beats fructose for muscle recovery. hence i eat white rice rather than a bunch of grapes and pineapples (to paul saladino's dismay). and I choose white rice over brown rice to reduce phytic acid and arsenic, which is concentrated in the outer shell. white rice is a processed food that I stand by lol. Potatoes are a strong runner-up contender behind rice. It's really hard to go wrong with meat & potatoes... but the oxalates slightly concern me, personally I also wonder if having japanese genetics gives me an innate compatibility with rice. I feel significantly better on rice than bread, pasta, or potatoes, it's not even close @Natasha Tori Maru 25. I started eating beef and rice every day at age 22. Going into my 4th year now. Only green lights so far

lolll very unlikely did you not read Leo's recent blog discussion on PLAY? bezos' entire energy signature is anti-PLAY curse of the billionaire

0 fiber diet with perfect digestion, to the dismay of psychedeliceagle 2MAD note: If I was able to consume dairy or organs, I wouldn't have half of these supplements. so this stack is idiosyncratic spot-supplementation.

@Lucasxp64 Where do you live