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Leo Gura replied to BlessedLion's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Well, it's tricky. Because on the one hand you guys wanna know what Consciousness/God/Love are. But on the other hand you want to stay safe and maintain a respectable, proper, politically-correct, Buddhist-approved human life. And maybe those two things are not the same thing. You have to figure, there must be some serious cost to this work, otherwise everyone would have done it by now. -
Leo Gura replied to BlessedLion's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Fear not, I'm nowhere close to psychosis or schizophrenia as a mental disorder. As Trump would say, I'm a very stable genius My mind is very stable considering all the crazy things I've experienced in the last year. Sure, sometimes I have some rough words to type. That's just some noise in the process. But still, you guys should understand that there are no guarantees with this work. I do incur genuine risk and certain costs. There is no guarantee that I come out unscathed in the end. We'll just have to see how things unfold. -
Leo Gura replied to BlessedLion's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I don't teach suffering or psychopathy. I just explore Consciousness and report back certain things I've discovered. My path is very dangerous. If you don't do it properly you will kill yourself. Which is why I report my findings. Since nobody else is doing what I'm doing. -
Leo Gura replied to BlessedLion's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
How many psychotic gurus have you seen? Why are you so biased against psychotic breaks? It's too hard to explain. I don't know how to explain it. I have given plenty of explanation of problems with Buddhism. But the really deep problem cannot be explained so simply. I'm in the process of articulating it to myself. And it's hard to do that when I'm being gaslit by them on the regular. A certain orbital escape velocity much be reached to transcend Buddhism + Nonduality + enlightenment. Which is why you don't see many people escaping it. -
Leo Gura replied to BlessedLion's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
There is absolutely no way you could receive all the insight I've had into Consciousness is a single event, even a single day. I have puddles of blood and shit on my floors from just a couple of my awakenings. A couple out of 500. I would not believe if you told me you got it in a single month after 30 days of breakthroughs. I would tell you there's still way more you're missing. -
Leo Gura replied to BlessedLion's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It's worth it if you're interested in Consciousness for its own sake. Don't expect it to help you live in the human realm. In fact it will probably hurt in that department. It's not it floats my boat, it's just the natural consequences of seriously investigating Consciousness. You never know what you'll find. Maybe you'll become a psychopath, maybe an angel, maybe a devil, maybe an alien. How deep is your love if you have not integrated psychopathy? Your love is very biased and human. I would like to shake your claw when you get one I am not even talking about radiating love at this point. I'm just trying to make sure you guys become conscious of what it is first. -
Hehe.... That's always how that works It's hard to dial in that DMT dose. It's usually too low or too high. Yeah, I've had a tough DMT trip once. DMT is no joke. It can terrify you for life. I never wanna overdo DMT again.
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Don't overlook the value of a low insight deeply learned. You could certainly cause permanent damage to yourself if you're not careful. You could do something very simple and stupid like crack your head on a coffee table as you are panicking. So the #1 principle to learn while tripping is to always move gently. If you fall into a serious terror the best thing to do is to get a cozy blanket, lay down in bed, shut off all the lights and noise, and just act like you're taking a nap. And keep reminding yourself that it will be over soon and just relax into it.
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Leo Gura replied to BlessedLion's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
What I got no human teaching could ever give. Which is why I act as I do. And why you act as you do. -
To not take so much.
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Leo Gura replied to BlessedLion's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
That's why I make it easy for you guys, by being an asshole When are you going to realize that I don't care about the spiritual things you have been taught to care about? That can be quite an epiphany for you. If you are openminded enough to have it. While you have been busy acting compassionate, I have been busy exploring the consciousness of a psychopath. They don't teach you that in Buddha-school. -
Leo Gura replied to BlessedLion's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
That's fine, but there is way more to consciousness beyond all that. Everything and anything that you experience is Truth. So are disagreeing with me over nothing. I speak of CONSCIOUSNESS because it is a much more sophisticated and complex thing than realizing what Truth is. Precisely because Truth is just anything you experience. And comprehending CONSCIOUSNESS is not that easy! You need a massive shift in consciousness to actually see what it is. Your realization of Truth is not doing that job. 1) I don't claim degrees of Truth. You made that up. 2) Understanding what CONSCIOUSNESS is a totally higher matter and comes in many degrees. A) YES! B) Love is not human kindness. Although it also is. But it is also a horse kicking you in the nuts. You don't know that. -
Leo Gura replied to Taya's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The innate Intelligence of Consciousness. -
DMT has somewhat of the creature, otherness feel to it for me. It feels like the spice has a mind of its own. 5-MeO does not feel like that at all. DMT seems to active the "otherness" receptors in the brain. It can be quite disturbing.
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My experience with organics is limited. Mushrooms definitely feel more "alive", more multi-dimensional than just a single chemical. Mushrooms have a certain lively, creature-like quality to them which I do not get so much on other chems. I actually miss it. 5-MeO is amazing but it doesn't have that trickster, creature quality.
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Don't kid yourself. You ain't gonna "master fear". A high enough dose of the right psychedelic will terrify the shit out of you regardless. The lesson is to be careful with your dosing and not rush in like a fool.
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Mushrooms are more organic, earthy, magical, tricksterish, wavey. Duration much shorter, about 2hrs. LSD is more synthetic, neon, more body-load. Duration much longer 5-6hrs.
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One of the most important trips I ever had was one of my first bad mushroom trips.
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Of course it's a matter of trade-offs. The more "credible" and "authoritative" your sources become, the harder they will be to poke holes in, but also, the harder they will be to dislodge if they are wrong, and you will believe them without question. Your point is that there is a certain wisdom-of-crowds effect within science. Yes. But that also comes with a certain stupidity-of-crowds effect. Two sides of the same coin. In general it is safe to trust institutional science on non-cutting-edge topics. But bad to trust it on cutting-edge topics. For example, the reason I trusted the vaccines is because vaccine science is pretty well established now. Of course mRNA vaccines are pretty new, but not new enough that we should let a flu virus killed millions of people on its own. Vaccine science is good enough at this point that I trust that if a new vaccine was gonna kill over a million people via side-effects, the scientific protocols we already have in place will spot it early into testing. This much scientists are good at doing. What they are not good at doing is coming up with totally new solutions to subtle problems which are difficult to quantify. In short, science sucks most at all the problems which less and less material. I never claimed that my conclusions would satisfy the existing methods and social norms. Maybe they will. Maybe they won't. That doesn't make my discovery any less a discovery. It becomes a social game of how to convince others most effectively. Maybe I can win that game, maybe I can't. And maybe I don't give a damn. Convincing closedminded people is a hard game to win. But it can be won if you really devote yourself to it. No, it does not mean abandoning critical thinking. All my work is based on critical thinking. Neither science nor any institution has a monopoly on critical thinking. In fact, their problem is precisely a lack of critical thinking. Scientists do not know how to think. The problem is that "critical thinking" and "logic" are much-loaded terms which are culturally defined by human institutions, so that even bad thinking gets called "good thinking", "critical thinking", "logical", "reasonable", and "scientific" via group-think. Group-think just IS a lack of critical thinking. But there is an even deeper issue here. The desire to ground everything "rigorously" presents a subtle but significant bias which itself skews your ability to understand reality. The deepest levels of reality cannot be formalized in the ways that current science considered necessary and "proper". For example, if some geek at MIT expects a formalization of God then the proper response is not to bend over backwards to appease him but to tell him to fuck off. Current scientific method is like a claw machine that can only grasp crude objects but cannot grasp a needle. If you want to grasp a needle then you will need to change your mental machinery. Most of my claims are either falsifiable or verifiable, and I give my methods. So that's not the issue. The issue becomes one of initial incredulity and lack of motivation to actually follow the method and do the experiment. If I tell some Harvard psychology to snort 5-MeO-DMT for 30 days straight, he's simply not going to do it. Even though my method is fully scientific and valid, even under current scientific method. Well, this is where you have to think more holistically to see that in science everything is interconnected. Your metaphysics informs and biases your empirical work. With a bit of critical thinking you should be able to see that if the metaphysics of all the psychologists at Harvard is so wrong, that there will be much else wrong in their science. Because it all boils down to lack of good thinking. The reason their metaphysics is wrong is because at the root they are bad thinkers. And if they are bad thinkers then their empirical methods will also be lacking. It is not possible to design an empirical experiment and proper interpret its results without good critical thinking. The reason that something like 50% of all social science studies fail to validate is because of lack of good critical thinking by those scientists who designed them. So many ways. For example, enormous scientific advances could be made in understanding and helping people with mental illness and mental disorders like multiple personality disorder or schizophrenia if the scientists working on these problems realized that these disorders constitute different non-ordinary, non-material realities within consciousness. Whereas right now scientists assume that there is a base, material reality and that these disorder are just some frivolous anomalies. Another example: it is impossible for psychologists to explain religious experiences without understanding that science is imaginary. Stuff like NDEs, out of body, astral projection, remote viewing, clairvoyance, paranormal, derealization, depersonalization, mystical experience, healing, angels, demons, God, DMT elves, etc. All of these fields are badly stagnating because the current metaphysical paradigm is deeply flawed. Do you not understand why Einstein is considered the best scientist of all time? Because he realized that absolute time was imaginary. Which lead to a whole generation of new science which could not otherwise be possible. DO NOT underestimate how much interpretation scientific experiment requires. It's way more than any scientist realizes.
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Leo Gura replied to BlessedLion's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Realizing Truth is easy relative to the consciousness I am talking about. But even so, your understanding of Truth is quite weak. You've reduced Truth down to some kind of formless atom, as the Buddhists and nondualists do. This is not a complete understanding of Truth and leads to much self-deception. I'm perfectly clear on what Truth is. You're not fooling me with such gambits. No. But that sure is a nice way for you to rationalize to yourself that you have outsmarted me. I find it interesting how easily you guys take me for an idiot. You really think I haven't thoroughly considered this? Like I just overlooked it like some kind of bumbling amateur? Consciousness comes in many degrees. You are confusing this with the notion of Truth. Your entire nondual enlightenment spirituality is anthropomorphic and human. You don't even understand what a non-human consciousness is. What I talk about is the least anthropomorphic thing any human has ever talked about. I never claimed it was. You just don't understand my position on Truth. -
Leo Gura replied to De Sade's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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Leo Gura replied to BlessedLion's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
No, you literally can't see alien red because your mind is so utterly brainwashed with all the human nondual nonsense you've learned. But as someone who has seen alien red, it's perfectly clear to me that you have not. And no amount of your gaslighting will change that. This is so obvious because your mind is not even open to the idea of it. Nevermind actually doing the work necessary to reach it. And so, by your own infinite power of closedmindedness and self-deception you will remain only seeing red. And from your POV that's all there will ever be. But you made it that way. I offered you the alien red pill and you slapped it out of my hand. Okay. Stay human. -
Leo Gura replied to BlessedLion's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Everyone is different so you gotta decide for yourself what you need to spur you along. The human stuff is fine as long as you don't trapped in it. But everyone I know does. But maybe human is all you want. Don't just blindly copy me. Figure out what it is you want out of spirituality. It's like a buffet out there. Just cause I dine on alien chicken wings doesn't mean you have to. -
Leo Gura replied to BlessedLion's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I'm not trying that hard. It's pretty easy. If I didn't tell you, how would you know? Would you be smart enough to figure it out yourself? You think you're smarter than Ralston? -
Leo Gura replied to BlessedLion's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
No one here even knows that Alien Love exists.