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@Source_Mystic I've already addressed your issue. You are being hysterical. If you don't like the technique, don't do it.

@Dinesh Karki Every perspective has some worth. It's worth listening to Hitler or Bin Laden. But you have to understand how to understand what you're hearing and put it into proper context and avoid the trap of subscribing to ideological positions in service of self-survival.

@zenjen Two things: 1) That whole "I am struggling to kill myself... this is so difficult..." is itself a farce. It's the ego over-dramatizing its own death. It's the final form of egotism to overcome. The ego loves to make a big deal out of dying. 2) Tap into love. It conquers all fear. Including the fear of death. When you feel like you cannot go any further, tap into love and let it overtake you. Push, but let go of control.

Peterson is distracted in the Lesser Jihad. He is wrapped up in waging an intellectual crusade, and his followers are doing the same. All of these issues of men's rights, liberalism, capitalism vs Marxism, etc. are issues of self-survival. Which is orthogonal to consciousness. Consciousness has nothing to do with intellectual crusading. Consciousness reveals that all intellectual, moral, and idealistic positions are false, and ultimately obstacles to the solution of the worlds problems. The counter-intuitive move in this case is to drop the desire to argue and turn inward. All criticism is untenable. Anyone who takes their own criticisms of anything in reality seriously has not awoken. Criticism comes from the arrogance of thinking you know what is right and that you are in control. Classic self-deception traps. All of this I explained in my Self-Deception episodes.

Careful with the Hare Krishnas. They have a big collective ego and they will brainwash you with their dogmas. Regardless of any spiritual benefits which you might accrue (and there probably are some great spiritual benefits to their practices). You want to be spiritual without becoming a group-think zombie. Practices alone are not the only factor. The other factor that's really important is inclusiveness and broad understanding of all spiritual traditions, without attachment to any particular one.

As Sadhguru always says: Snort that nose candy. Isn't it? Yes or no?

Find a good life purpose.

@egoless Very good

@egoless Did you become conscious of why reality exists? Of what it is?

@MM1988 Like I said, the Stoics were good philosphers and psychologists. When you closely observe your inner nature, you will come to the same basic conclusions. The parallels exist because anyone who studies human nature honestly will tend to see the same core principles at work. It's really just a question of how deeply you go down the rabbit hole, and how you choose to express your insights, from within which cultural background.

Just consider the possibilty that there are many many many many degrees to it, and very very very very few people have ever seen the deepest degrees. When you think you've reached the deepest, you probably haven't.

There is much deeper to go. No-self is just the start.

Awakening is not really logical in the end. It will not make sense to you from within the ego. The key point is: you cannot locate yourself no matter how hard you look. Notice that. That should make you very suspicious of this thing you call "me".

@Ether If I did that, you'd be the one controlling me.

This PizzaGate stuff is annoying. They are not the same logo. People are way too sloppy in how they connect dots.

@Rilles While you're at, you might also ask, "Where is the universe located?" Maybe you can make it disappear too. Now that would be something!

@Monkey-man What are you talking about? No, no, no. Spiral Dynamics stages are nowhere near enlightenment. You are making that stuff up.

A wise mind realizes its own limits and domain. The end-goal is No-Mind, or Infinite Mind.

This is all fine and good, but do not confuse emotional mastery or lack of suffering or bliss with enlightenment. They are separate things. This is not to say you shouldn't do "The Work" if it appeals to you. Enlightenment is about realizing what reality is.

Careful as the mind comes back and tries to cling and appropriate these insights towards its own devilish ends.

@How to be wise Maybe, but that isn't full awakening.

@zenjen You'll be less sad when you realize there is no choice in the matter. Everything is perfect and inevitable. An enlightened master has no control.

Ain't nothin' logical about logic Logic is the last refuge of a weak mind.

@zenjen Possible. My impression of Osho (and this could just be my projection), was that he was so absorbed in nonduality he didn't give a fuck about human afairs here on Earth. And so things here on Earth got out of hand. If Osho didn't want to be involved with managing a community, he shouldn't have started such a big one. He also may have had parts of his shadow which he never worked through. His love of luxury, oppulance, sex, drugs, and adoration from fans all seem fishy. Those are lower chakra desires. It was obvious to me from the get-go, when Sheela said that she didn't care about enlightenment or meditation, but only serving Osho, that that would lead to great evil. You cannot have a human being leading a spirtual community of 1000s who is herself not doing any spiritual purifcation work. That will lead to obvious disaster. A leader must be more conscious than her followers, and always working to improve and humble herself.