Leo Gura

A very typical Orange fear. Orange believes that it must always be competing, otherwise nothing will get done. In reality, you can chill out and still accomplish work. You don't need a cutthroat attitude to be creative, productive, and happy. You don't need to work 60 hours a week. Scandinavian countries are very Greenish. They also have the highest happiness index. Higher than the US. When you have your basic survival needs satisfied, that's when life gets really interesting. Now you have time for art, education, philosophy, spirituality, self-actualization, exploration, community, bonding, deep relationships, raising their children to be good people, helping the world, etc.

Stop judging Green, and maybe then you'll have a shot at growing into it. Green consciousness is quite evolved. Orange cannot fathom the shift that opens up Green. It's a pretty radical shift. You're not going to get to it through logic or debate or science. You must open your heart. The difference between Orange and Green is that Green has opened his heart and Orange denies there is such a thing. Don't think you can just skip over Green. It will take many of you Orange people 5 to 10 years of work before you start to see what Green is really about. If you're thinking that Green is about becoming a militant vegan, you're totally missing the point.

Kiss the Alaskan salmon goodbye:

@martin_malin Lol

Many Northern European leaders are Green. Northern Europe skews very Green politically, socially, and economically. One's level of consciousness or Spiral Dynamics level does not guarantee any kind of results. Neither Green nor Yellow nor Turquoise guarantee that your policies will not hurt some people or lead to catastrophe. Every stage is capable of bad policy. Policy is complex and can often backfire in unexpected ways. Even so, Green policy tends to be much healthier overall than Orange or Blue policy. What created the Syrian refugee crisis? Was it Green? Or was is George Bush's and the Neo-Con's Blue/Orange bright idea to invade Iraq? Which, BTW, resulted in over 100,000 civilian deaths. "Destructive" is a relative thing. What feels "destructive" to you at Orange will not feel so once you're at Green. And vice versa. There is no such thing as absolutely "destructive". Destructive is always a judgment relative to your ego and your Spiral stage.

Died from cocaine abuse. Went to jail for beating a hooker.

Great Orange film:

@Leo-Tzu That's actually a Yellow/Turquoise sort of mentality. Especially the last minute. He's basically describing the enlightened view of life. Very holistic thinking. Not surprising coming from Carlin, who did LSD.

@How to be wise A 20 minute video is not going to give you a sense of what that guy actually went through to get to where he is now. He's telling a story. He's highly condensed and over-simplified it. It took him years to go through that, so he is not giving you a full picture of his entire life, he's only telling you certain facets which play into this narrative of going from Nazi to Green. That phase of working at IBM probably included lots of Orange development. Also, you don't know his full starting position. He was probably already half orange when started out.

@Revolutionary Think Is this is what libertarians jerk off to? Lol

You can have many different personality types within one color stage.

The Godfather of Orange:

@martin_malin

@danilofaria Osho was obviously enlightened and way beyond Orange is many ways. But he also had some hangups with Orange. He took it to unhealthy levels.

What you have to understand about such Green people is that they are doing it out of an ideal of equality, in reaction against Blue & Orange. They really care about the animals. So much so that it goes overboard. Green cares too much, you could say. That is its strength and weakness. The life of an animal is worth more than throwing blood on some customer -- in Green's eyes. You can't put a price on life. They are more conscious than you in the sense that they see the equality of all life. An ego-filled person cannot see that an ant is worth as much as a human.

@Girzo Good call on the K-pop. So Orange.

@NoSelfSelf Look around your room right now and notice that everything you see has no meaning. Exclude no object. Just sit with that for a few minutes. Repeat every day for a month.