Leo Gura

Every color on the Spiral has its own version of political correctness: Blue PC = banning vulgarity, sex, porn, blasphemy, banning criticism of the church/civilization Orange PC = banning criticism of the evils of corporations Green PC = banning racist speech, hate speech, cruel speech, banning criticism of Green If you criticize Islam in Blue Saudi Arabia, they will kill you. If you expose the evils of factory farming in Orange America, they will sue you. If you call someone a racial slur in a Green organization, they will fire you.

@martins name Being a good and intimate lover is actually Green An Orange guy doesn't care about pleasing his woman in bed. He pumps and dumps.

Right, that's pretty much what I suspected. So what that tells me is, you're a typical young male in stage Orange who is still evolving and will eventually mature into Green. Nothing abnormal here. You have been very thoroughly conditioned by our heavily Orange culture. "Emotions as a weakness" is a very common idea these days with young men. It's part of Orange culture and trying to find your male identity. But as you mature as a male, you will soften and you will see the power of emotions. In your 20's, you still haven't found yourself as a persona. (Never mind enlightenment.) So one of the ways young males go about finding themselves is striving to fit the "alpha" ideal. Which requires a denial of emotions, femininity, softness, vulnerability, crying, caring, empathy, community, cooperation, love, relationship, etc.

We've been having an uptick in trolling and personal sniping on this forum recently, and I'm getting sick of reading it. This is a warning to all trolls: stop, or you will be banned. Stop sniping at other members Stop creating purposefully inflammatory topics Stop defending and justifying yourself Stop acting like a jerk Stop acting like a cocky know-it-all Stop purposefully contradicting other members just to provoke them Stop speculating about things Stop blaming others for trolling or provoking you Stop telling other members what color on the Spiral they are (let them figure it out for themselves) Stop telling other members how wrong they are Stop telling other members how unconscious they are Your actions are souring this forum. Be an example of higher consciousness on this forum. If someone provokes you, do not attack back or take their bait or justify yourself, Just let it go. If the trolls persist we will ban them, so there's no need to justify yourself in response to trolls. Take the higher ground. Make your points without making it personal Be nice

@Onecirrus I'm curious, how old are you? I suspect there are a lot of people (mostly autistic-type young males) in the world who feel like you, which is why speakers like JP, Sam Harris, Dave Rubin, Stephen Molyneux, Trump, etc. have cult followings. It would be interesting to learn more about how their followers really feel inside and why they get triggered by Green so much. Is it just a symptom of passing from Blue to Orange? Or is it something deeper like overabundance of testosterone, resentment towards women due to inability to get laid, lack of socialization due to an overly-digital lifestyle, autistic spectrum, etc?

That tendency is very hard to overcome. The ego judges "high consciousness" as "better than" low consciousness. This is of course false. A truly conscious person knows that consciousness is not better than unconsciousness. All is one. There is no better or worse. Those are all relative judgments of the ego, which are very difficult to surrender in total.

It's just a consequence of releasing these Spiral videos. After the series is over, it will pass and we will move on to other stuff. It's not possible to teach Spiral Dynamics to this audience without all this hoopla. At the end of the series, I'm gonna tell you: "Now, drop all of Spiral Dynamics. It isn't true."

Guys, when you're posting videos, try to find short snippets which demonstrate the point in a minutes or two. Hour long videos aren't good for this list. We want to find examples which distill Orange down to its essence.

@KMB4222 No, there are only 2 types of testing kit: Erlich and Marquis. Each one tests for lots of various substances with a color-coded chart. Run your substance through both.

@Jed Vassallo 5-MeO will make Aya look like a toy. Once you got 5-MeO, you're set.

I have a video about it. I have not done Aya. But 5-MeO will feel very different from everything else. There's nothing quite like it. 5-MeO is extremely lucid. It's like powdered lucidity.

All ideas about infinity are finite. Drop them.

That's some truth right there.

@billiesimon Infinity.

@astrokeen The Truth is frightful to the unprepared mind. That is not a bug, that's the feature! 5-MeO is not going to nurture your ego. It's going to kill you.

Stop sniping at each other.

You can have deep ego death experiences on pretty much any decent psychedelic. I've had it on: mushrooms, LSD, 2CB, AL-LAD, etc. I've yet to take a psychedelic which did not cause ego-death in me at some point. It all depends on you and how deeply you're willing to go.