Leo Gura

No. What I said does not require punishment, just deterrence. A murder doesn't need to be punished, just stopped from murdering. How you stop him is up for debate. Human morality is guided by a tiny connection to Absolute Goodness, which is then corrupted and hijacked by the ego-mind to further its survival. If Absolute Goodness is the sun, human morality is like a moth flying in circles around a candle flame.

There's no limit. Beyond your wildest imaginations. But people will probably kill you if you get too pushy. Progress is a slow and painful process. That's my point. You're not appreciating how pervasive survival is. Survival is always needed (if you care to survive, and you certainly do, otherwise you wouldn't care about being in a commune to begin with). There cannot be any kind of stabled formed experience without survival. Survival needs are what make a commune less than utopian. You can certainly find some decent high-consciousness communes, but they will still have many common social problems. Or even worse, they could be toxic cults behind the scenes.

She is a well-known right-wing hack, part of Ben Shapiro's squad. Along the lines of Tomi Lahren, who spews verbal diarrhea.

We got a horror of self-love living in the White House But be careful to distinguish Self-Love from self-love.

Hahaha! Guess again. You are not going to escape social survival that easily. You already live in a commune. It's called society. It is messy and dirty precisely because that's what social survival looks like. Survival is a dirty business and not even awakened people are above it, assuming they care to survive. Any social arrangement is gonna get complicated very quickly. You have to be willing to play that game. If not, go live in a cabin in the woods, or just an apartment. The closest thing to utopia will be a cabin in the woods, far away from people. Assuming you are conscious enough to handle that.

@Lento You speak of things you are not sufficently conscious of. Less preaching, more contemplating for you.

@Corpus Nothing you say contradicts what I said. Form is infinite and DMT is just more form. Vista is form. Amazing form is still form.

Goodness is an Absolute. But this has almost nothing to do with human morality so I hesitate to even say it in this context due to the likely misunderstanding.

I think you're being too picky. Anna is doing a decent job overall. Gotta give people some leeway or it turns into a circular firing squad. If you are progressive she's on your team. Sure, you can find things to criticize about her. But is this really a good use of your time?

Well sure, you're talking about absolute being now. This is very different from what people normally mean when they talk about morality and something being bad or wrong.

Dude, if TYT is not progressive enough for you, you're shit out of luck in this life. Few people speak out against corruption as much as TYT. Just because you fight corruption doesn't mean you have to be a rabid dog about it. You can still be polite and respectful. Society has certain norms and standards which are wise to observe simply from a practical point. Just because you have a gripe with Albright doesn't mean everyone else must too. There are lots of ways to hold devils accountable. Don't expect people to do it your way. They will do their own way. If you want things done your way, you do it. Go interview Albright and call her a devil to her face. Let's see how far you get.

That's precisely wrong. Right and wrong are FAR more socially constructed than anger or blueness. Which is obvious if you notice that no two humans agree on what is right and wrong, good or bad. To realize the relativity of good & bad does not even require awakening. It's a lot more obvious than that. A child can understand it using a bit of logic.

Stop saying that. You don't know what you can't know.

I am very sensitive too. This is a huge plus. Saves you on wasted chems and takes your trips deeper. There is really no point talking about it. Do 100 trips and see what happens. A few trips is nothing. Contemplate in your trips. Don't get lost in chasing forms but rather focus on nondual insight and purification.

I don't understand what that means.

@Scholar Good/bad/right/wrong are things you invented for the purpose of survival as an imaginary self. No self, no right or wrong.

You could say that.

@jim123 There would be nothing wrong about it from the absolute perspective. From the relative perspective there would be consequences you'd have to deal with. Your actions have natural consequences. So long as you accept those, nothing is wrong. Yes, but what's wrong with not telling the truth? That's a freedom you have. Tricking people is part of how life keeps on living. There exists no one in reality who can determine whether lying is wrong, other than you. So if you believe it is wrong, it is wrong, for you, because you imagine it to be so. But don't expect others to necessarily agree.

Video games use "light rays" too. Does that make them real? Does that mean light rays cause Mario's face to light up? Does that mean Mario exists outside the video game world? Your questions are being asked from within the Matrix, so to speak. What way would life have to be designed for you to say, "This life isn't real."? Can't you see that no matter how it was designed, since you have nothing else to compare it to, it can't seem anything but real for you. Consider this: if you were Mickey Mouse in a cartoon world, and you'd never experienced anything but that world, you'd think that it is real. You'd have no choice. It would be your baseline for everything. And what's more, if you ever got a glimpse of human life you'd say, "That's so unreal! Those humans are so limited."

@Vipassana Great stuff. Love your no-BS attitude. Keep at it. Might want to start Kriya yoga.

You abide in Self-Love and nondual awareness and enjoy life.

The point is, right and wrong are relative notions. There is no absolute right and wrong. But in the relative world -- relative to living a decent human life -- you should not kill people, because it will not end well for you. But again, this is all relative. If you want things to go badly for you as a human, by all means, go for it. You will either end up in jail or killed by the police. Maybe if you're extremely lucky you can get away with it, OJ style. But even then, you'll still live a miserable life. Don't forget, OJ still served 10 years in prison thanks to his criminality. This is where Understanding Relativism comes in. Watch that video and contemplate it deeply until you understand what relativity means.

Look, I think you're taking this Self-Love thing too literally. It's not an object you find out in the world like some Holy Grail. Self-Love is just a label I invented for a teaching. Yes, there's tons of stuff to become conscious of before and after Self & Love. I have described many facets of awakening in my so-titled video. This question has no answer. It all depends.

Blue Beings and whatnot do not contradict Self-Love, and since any kind of being is a form, it is still a subtle form of duality. I didn't say things "stop" at Self-Love. Self-Love is infinite. It's all that is. You can keep exploring the world of form forever. No matter what new forms you discover, it will all just be facets of your Self. So there's no real contradiction here. Just people talking about different facets and forms in different ways. There may be all sorts of beings in the universe. So what? None of it threatens or undermines nonduality.

Yes, this is a predictable trap. But people can't grow without making mistakes. So I consider it par for the course. The highest teachings appear very impractical, yet when actualized are the most practical.