Leo Gura

I prefer CEI: close encounters of the infinite kind

Me!

There is no escaping states of consciousness. Consciousness is always in some state, whether you are enlightened or not, or even if you are dead. So saying something is "a state" is silly, because EVERYTHING is a state. Calling a thing a state doesn't say anything. Satori is a state. Which is why psychedelics can induce satori. How long it lasts is irrelevant. Anyone can easily test that psychedelics induce satori and awakening. This is foolish to argue about. Test it. All my claims are empirical and verifiable. But it is also good that you guys are confused and don't know who to believe. That forces you to test both Peter and me and do the work to verify what is true. Now you are forced to really investigate this matter and think deeply about it. Perhaps both of us are wrong and you will find even some higher truth. Disagreement between advanced teachers is one of the best things for a student. It forces you to ask how such a thing is possible. If enlightenment was so simple, how come there is so much disagreement??? Hmmmm...... could that be a clue?

The question is, to what degree? 5-MeO-DMT can give you a such a satori that you will not even be able to walk around. Just because something is stable and functional doesn't make it the highest.

Most people are not simply gonna be able to drop sex, no matter your logic or numbers. The better strategy is to satiate the sex drive rather than repress it. If you can genuinely drop it, great. But that's so rare it makes you a unique person. This is a topic where it helps to be realistic rather than saintly. That saintliness will come back to bite you if you aren't fully able to embody it naturally. Saintliness through repression will not work.

@LaucherJunge Do not promote any more conspiracy theories on this forum. I don't want to have to ban you.

5-MeO-DMT is not a subjective state. 5-MeO-DMT goes beyond traditional enlightenment to levels of awakening that no ordinary human is capable of. Awakening has many degrees and omniscience is possible. Yes, Peter and I have some important disagreements. Keep in mind that the people who do Peter's workshops and retreats... I would not consider a single one of them truly awake. Neither is his apprentice -- who I'm good friends with. It's all good stuff, but it's not even 1% close to the awakenings I've experienced.

It won't be very potent. You'll have to snort a TON of it, making it extremely unpleasant.

Isn't that a felt emotion? FEEEEEL that cringe!

It's hard to explain how I found them all. One great book usually leads to another, and so on.

Starting a biz is the surest way.

Only if that's what you're imagining from a certain human state of consciousness. In a sense, reality doesn't know you threw water in my face unless you imagine you did.

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Well... Jim Carey also isn't serious. He's toying around.

You are right, there are higher level of mind at which the mind can still think/reason about reality and understand it at much deeper levels than any human can. That's precisely what psychedelics offer. They give you super-mind. You can reason and think in ways far beyond the conventional human mind. It's like having the mind of a super-intelligence alien. But there is something even beyond super-mind, which is Infinite Consciousness or Omniscience or Being. Cause & effect is dualistic. It is an illusion and the casual chains are infinitely long, with not beginning or end. And they run in circles and strange loops.

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@Meta-Man I would dispute that he has done the work. He's toyed around with stuff. He has not yet started on the path towards awakening. It's just not something he's interested in. So of course it's no surprise he's not awake. He's a fucking comedian. Let's be real here. We should not hold Joe up to the same standard as a Buddha.

Well, first of all, it is not I who deny this, it is science. Quantum mechanics throws the classic notion of a deterministic physical universe under the bus. Secondly, the term determinism comes with a lot of bad materialistic metaphysical baggage which is better thrown in the trash. Calling reality deterministic is just not right. It doesn't fit that category well. I would just drop it in favor of better descriptions. Rather than calling it deterministic, call it Infinite Consciousness. That's much more accurate. This gives an air of mystery to it, which is precisely correct. Now you must experience what Infinite Consciousness is by some awakening experiences.

The dreamer is the dream. Furthermore, there isn't even a dream.

@Mert If you want to understand reality at a deep level -- at the ultimate level -- then what you have to do is realize that the relative level/domain is entirely illusory, and let the whole thing go. You are still trying to drag God down into the mud, to your relative level, but God cannot be understood that way. You must empty your cup and rise to God's level. This means surrendering the relative -- at least for a while. The question of whether other minds exists cannot be properly answered at the relative level. At the absolute level you will realize that other minds are your mind. To realize what another is requires a specific awakening experience.

He has not done serious meditation or yoga. Toying around with such practices should not be called meditation or yoga at all. These words have been diluted far too much in the West.

We can in this case of confirmation bias. God is a tautology, so it cannot be anything other than what it is. And God is all there is. BUT! God's Will generates everything, so calling this determinism is incorrect. Determinism is a materialistic notion which does not even come close to understanding how and why reality unfolds as it does. Reality is an act of Will. God's Will for Love. The ego's will for survival. Etc. The ego's will is a splinter off God's Will. If the ego fully surrenders, then it moves in line with God's Will. God is a tautology not by accident, but because God wills itself to be Love. God IS Love and it cannot be anything else because an Infinite Intellect will always choose Perfection over anything else. There cannot be anything else! Non-perfection doesn't exist! The duality between determinism and free will must of course collapse. Depends on how deeply you want to understand. All explanations are partial and limited. To really understand you have to recognize the magic of Infinity. This is beyond conventional explanation. Of course you can still use conventional explanations like science, but they will always be incomplete and partial.

Synchronicity is not confirmation bias or some such thing. With a true synchronicity your mind recognizes the Intelligence of the Design. This is not a psychological phenomenon but a spiritual one. It's like noticing God winking at you everywhere you look.

@LaucherJunge Please, inform us simpletons. Who is the emperor of TV?