Leo Gura

I don't care what the numbers are. The numbers are mostly arbitrary. I would be happy with 5% to start. The money wasted by billionaires would stimulate the economy far more if it was put in the hands of ordinary consumers. What you say is the opposite of true. Economic stimulus comes from pushing money down the hierarchy. Taxation does exactly that. The money Jeff Bezos wasted on his yacht could have gone to his employees to educate their children. The yacht has zero value to society. The education of 1000 children directly adds value to society in a massive way. It makes a huge difference how the money is distributed, or rather, who it is leeched from. It is not his money to begin with. There you go again. Like a broken record. What you call "self-made" is a lie. That's like citing to me a report that says that wealth of 18th century Southern plantation owners was self-made. Yeah, through owning slaves! Your definition of "self-made" is a socially constructed silliness. Imagine I enslave your children and make them edit my videos for free for a lifetime. Then on my grave I will write: "Here lies Leo. Self-made success story." We will reform the system by changing it so that billionaires are taxed out of existence. But they won't die. The people will still remain and still do all the same work they did before. It's not Jeff Bezo's existence that I want to end, but rather his ability to leech wealth from workers. I got nothing against Bezos personally. After we take away his ability to leech money from workers, he will still be exactly the same as he is. You are acting as through I am talking about killing all entrepreneurs. No! We just take away their ability to hoard money.

Don't forget that it runs in girls too. Perhaps even more so than in you.

Don't be fooled by an extrovert's happy facade. Such people are not happy, they are just gerbils in wheels.

@StarfoxEpiphany Watch yourself. You're getting close to a ban with your constant right-wing stuff. Not because it's right-wing, but because it's ignorant and ideological.

Nobody is talking about 100% taxation today. We are talking about inefficiencies in the system. Reforming slavery took a Civil War and 500,000 lives. Reforming as corrupt system is often difficult and dangerous in the short term.

If you're so worried about motivation, I want you to imagine the lost potential and motivation of 95% of the workforce who are mired in wage slavery. How many of them would do something great like Elon Musk, but they never will simply because they cannot afford to quit their Walmart job to pay their medical bills. The whole problem with having billionaires is the massive lost motivation and potential of the rest of mankind. If capital is so important to Elon Musk, why is it not also equally important to rest of mankind? You recognize that Musk needs capital to get shit done, but the rest of mankind are just, what?, lazy bums? In our current system 95% of mankind's creative potential and motivation is being wasted to enable a handful of billionaires to buy mega-yachts and do joy-rides into space. Any concern you have about billionaires losing money or motivation multiplies 1,000,000-fold across the general population in our current system. That's the absurdity of it. A billionaire could run out of quarters for playing a slot machine and you'd be like: "But how will this poor billionaire make it in the world? What will cause him to wake up every morning if we don't give him his bag of quarters? What if he gets sad? What if he cries? What if he decides to quit life? Let's not take any chances. Let's hire a slave to bring him his bag of quarters and suck his dick too, just to be safe. We don't want to upset him."

That sword cuts both ways. The problem is not the girls, it's your attachment to needing their love.

Be careful with such gross generalizations. Who says they have to be intellectuals? That's your subjective bias. There are many more ways to live life than as an intellectual on YT. Again, your bias is causing you to lose sight of other modes of doing spiritual work. The majority of spiritual work in the world is done via group and communal settings. People meditate together, drink psychedelics together, have orgies together, pray together, go to church together, etc. Even monks live together and fuck each other.

@captainamerica Lol

You are confusing two things: their work is necessary, but their wealth is not. If a school teacher can do a good job on $50k/yr, then so can a CEO. Just because you make necessary contributions to mankind does not mean you are entitled to charge a billion dollars for it. Here's what you're missing about the psychology of billionaires. If we took away all of Elon Musk's money, he would still do his work. Because money is not what motivates him. These people are workaholics. They will work even if you tax them 100%.

Don't worry. It's not going to be, thanks to folks like you.

This is false. Like I told you but you failed to understand, this frame that billionaires create all their wealth is purely a social construction. Again, according to your logic, kings and slavemasters come by their wealth through value creation too, therefore it is immoral to take away kingdoms and slave plantations. This is, in fact, exactly what kings and slavemasters said. Billionaires do not create their wealth. They leech it from workers. It is not possible to create a billion dollars in value otherwise. Don't even start quoting consciousness at me. Your devil mind will use "consciousness" to justify whatever selfish thing you believe.

$10 million is literally plenty of reward for ANY job on the planet. You know what feels really shitty? Paying someone who works in the hot sun picking strawberries all day long $20/day. How about rewarding them? Why do you not care about properly rewarding 99% of the workforce, but you are so passionate about rewarding the top 0.01% who are already so highly rewarded that literally they cannot feel the difference when we add an extra billion to their bank account? Do you see how fucked up your priorities are? How about rewarding teachers, police, firefighters, soldiers, mothers, construction workers, fast food workers, Amazon warehouse workers, delivery drivers? See, you don't give a fuck about these people who are being exploited to make Jeff Bezos a billionaire. Billionaires are a lot more analogous to kings than to the existence of money itself. Money is a necessary and important technology. Billionaires are not necessary, like kings. All this is true of slavery. In the 1850s you'd be in a public forum shouting that our society is not evolved enough to abolish slavery and that we cannot function without slaves. Out of slaves, massive wealth creation, etc. We can even fuck them for free. How can a man live without having slaves to fuck? Our society cannot handle it.

First off all, I'm not saying we should right now tax billionaires at 100%. I was just making a general point that IF we did tax them at 100%, it could be reasonable and it would not be some kind of "theft". Secondly, it depends a lot on our time horizon. Today such ideas would not fly. But in 100 years they might become the norm. When I talk about politics I generally focus on what's feasible within my lifetime. We would be lucky to get a 2% tax within my lifetime. So I am not at all worried about overtaxing the rich. I will be long dead before a serious person utters the words, "My God! We've made a horrible mistake. We've over-taxed the rich."

I am not saying to print wealth. It can certainly be distributed better. If Amazon employees got double their salary, society would be better off. That you can't see this shows your lack of vision. You frame this situation as though we would be stealing money from Jeff Bezos. But consider another frame: Bezos stole most of his money from Amazon employees. You see, 500 years ago, a king would claim that all the money in the country was his. And when people suggested to change that system, the king righteously felt that they would stealing all his money. But the deeper truth was that the king got all his money by stealing it from the people. So the people took it back and killed the king. No one gets a billion dollars by earning it. You get a billion dollars by stealing it. This is crucial to understand. The logic you are using is exactly the same logic that was used to justify kingdoms. You are assuming that a billionaire's wealth rightly belongs to him. But this purely a social construction.

I have always been for the taxation for the rich. Nothing has changed. Now you're conflating matters. Of course I am perfectly aware that billionaires today exist for a reason and it could not be otherwise. Just like slavery existed for a reason and it could not be otherwise 200 years ago. But that does not mean slavery would last. Neither will billionaires. They will go extinct like kings. This conversation is not about the absolute domain, it's a discussion about policies we should adopt in the relative domain in the future. I am not here morally judging billionaires. I am pointing out that the situation for society is dysfunctional and unwholesome. A more conscious society would curb such foolishness.

They don't have to be criminals to justify a 100% tax. There is no reason whatsoever that society should allow billionaires to exist. There is no right to be a billionaire. A conscious society would recognize that any individual holding over a billion dollars is harmful to the society as a whole, simply in principle. In the same way individuals holding nuclear weapons is harmful to society as a whole and it is thus not allowed. What you have yet to realize is that just the very fact of holding a billion dollars harms the billionaire, his family, his friends, his colleagues, and society at large. It is like being morbidly obese. It is not good for you and it is a poor allocation of social resources. See, if you had a billion dollars and you mother was dying of cancer due to inability to pay for her doctor, but you desired to hoard your billions, we would call that a sick situation. Well, that's what's happening in society at large today. And you are justifying it as normal and even as a right of yours.

What you call brain and proof is 100% mind. You have never encountered anything in life which wasn't mind. There is nothing to prove or debate. Case closed.

Consider that it might actually be easier to awaken as an extrovert because introverts tend to be very lost in their minds. You have interpreted enlightenment as sort of extreme introversion when actually you could think of it as more like extreme extroversion. The inner world is snuffed out. Technically, inner and outer worlds become One, so it's a moot point.

Nope People gotta work different amounts to get the same results. And some people can't get the same result no matter how hard they work. I am never gonna be a Victoria Secret model no matter how hard I work.

@molosku I was not even talking about nonduality. You shouldove reality even if you are stuck in duality.

@FlyingLotus That is creepy.

This is BS. I know extroverted enlightened folk.

So hurry the fuck up and realize it. Life is a passin'

Math sounds very forced and inauthentic.