Leo Gura

@Elliott You are spreading misinformation.

And that's why God will go unrealized.

Research and visit the biggest cities in Germany and/or beyond. Find the one with the best nightlife and social scene. Then move there. Try online dating too. Online dating will work much better in a big city.

Orange is much more than making money. It is setting your own goals, rationality, science, seeing limitations of dogma, fitness and health, dating and attraction, democracy vs theocracy, secularism, financial responsibility, self-education, etc.

Unfortunately even this isn't true. Orange is badly needed because 50% of the population still lives paycheck to paycheck, with not enough material security to even have the luxury to care about the environment or trans people. Our development is so much lower than Wilber says that we haven't even exhausted Orange. And the Orange stage cannot just be handled by giving people free money and services. Orange is about learning to be an achiever. You can't skip Orange with socialism or UBI. 50% of the population needs to spend 10-20 years just actualizing Orange in themselves. That is our situation.

Yes, it's absurd how shallowly Green is treated.

We need an educated society.

Stick your tongue on a 9v battery and contemplate What is feeling? Can't get any more direct than that!

Of course. Yes. Although it's not like I will never talk about feelings. I have and will. Sure. And I have so many topics to cover that it will take me years before I get to the topic of feelings.

You can do both and the relative and absolute will nicely connect with each other. You can eat a sausage from both ends and meet in the middle.

The Absolute invites you to realize that everything relative is Absolute.

I do not preclude the exploration of feeling, or anything else. Nor do I preclude the doing of human relations. It's just a matter of priority and emphasis. My teachings are not anti feelings nor relations. Those are all part of a well-rounded developmental path. Just because I don't release many videos about feelings does not mean my work somehow denies or ignores them. I understand their importance, my work just has a different focus.

Time, activity -- same thing. You are taking time and activity to mean something it doesn't mean. Activity is Absolute as much as anything else. Just because a feeling lasts 30 seconds doesn't make it any less real or important than anything else.

Again, this is the trap of reductionism. Stop trying to reduce everything. When you a eat a banana, that's existential. The taste of a banana is Absolute Truth and it doesn't matter than it lasts only a few seconds. These fucking Buddhists have ruined spirituality with their reductionism. Can't even eat an Absolute Banana without some Buddhist squawking in your ear about how it's all a temporary distraction from Nirvana. The banana exists as itself.

That can't be right. Everything that exists is existential. Feeling is important and should not merely be reduced away to triviality. My work is not attempting to do that.

You're right, I do not care about honoring any human construction. Humans will find that offensive. Yes, I'm crafty in not letting any human construct limit me. The question is, why isn't everyone so crafty? What language of mine do you regard as "bastardizing"? Be specific because I don't know what you find so wrong with my use of language.

There is no solution. No human controls or designs evolution. Hyper capitalism will continue until it collapses from its own contradictions and corruption. And the pain of that cannot be avoided. The solution is playing itself out in slow-motion as we speak.

This is where I disagree. There is no appeasing stage Blue and Orange by being nicer to them and bending over backwards for them. They will just demonize Green regardless. Wilber places too much responsibility on Green while Blue and Orange behave like utter fucking lunatics. It is a mistake to think that you can talk down a lunatic by being nice to him. Green needs to behead a few Wall Street capitalists so they get the message. The problem with all this Integral theory is that it doesn't understand how power works. Orange capitalists will not give up their power, they will try to enslave everyone under it until they are physically put in handcuffs. The elephant in the room is hyper capitalism, not Green. Integral theory offers no solution to capitalism, instead capitualating to its corruption. The issue is not culture war academic gender stuff. The issue is that hyper capitalists are robbing trillions and using it to corrupt government. That is what Green needs to fix. Until that is fixed there should be no talk of Yellow or Game B fantasies. Wilber grossly overestimates the development level of society by focusing too much on the intellectual cutting edge while ignoring the other 90%. THIS is why Trump won. What matters most is that 90% of the population is Blue or Orange. In this condition there should be no talk of Yellow and there should be no blaming of Green because Green is the next stage. Yellow is not the next stage. This is so obvious yet Wilber doesn't see it.

@integral You want to call everything a feeling. I don't. So we will never agree. A tree is not a feeling. I don't know any clearer way to explain it. Exercise: In your direct experience locate what is a feeling. Then locate what is not a feeling. Observe the difference between the two. Notice that non-feeling exists.

My work is not against feeling, it just prioritizes understanding over everything else. Obviously the feminine will not find that appealing. I don t deny that my work has this bias. I'm proud to bias pure understanding over everything else because no other spiritual work does that, and suffers for it. You fool yourself if you think you can prioritize something above pure understanding and get away with it. But I'm also honest that my way has its costs and tradeoffs. You will feel the costs in human relations. If you prioritize human relations over pure understanding there will be a cost. I am not saying my way is best, since people have various goals and needs. But it has some unique advantages.

1) Will is not really a feeling. Feeling is small part of will. God's Will crystalizes as physical objects. When you look at a tree, the tree is God's Will. Whether you feel it or not is irrelevant. The problem is you don't recognize nor understand it. 2) Your body moves 99% of time without your will.

Since humans are corrupt, they defined words in limited and biased ways. So of course I will not respect their definitions. When I redefine a word, I uncorrupt it. I use the word from a higher level of intelligence. Notice that humanity's self-deception, bias, and ignorance is even baked into its language. So you are like a slave using a slavemaster's langauge, which is designed to keep you enslaved. Waking up an revolutionary act. You must break the chains that keep your mind shackled.

Now you understand why religion exists.

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Fareed is brilliant.