Leo Gura

Nobody is talking about 100% taxation today. We are talking about inefficiencies in the system. Reforming slavery took a Civil War and 500,000 lives. Reforming as corrupt system is often difficult and dangerous in the short term.

If you're so worried about motivation, I want you to imagine the lost potential and motivation of 95% of the workforce who are mired in wage slavery. How many of them would do something great like Elon Musk, but they never will simply because they cannot afford to quit their Walmart job to pay their medical bills. The whole problem with having billionaires is the massive lost motivation and potential of the rest of mankind. If capital is so important to Elon Musk, why is it not also equally important to rest of mankind? You recognize that Musk needs capital to get shit done, but the rest of mankind are just, what?, lazy bums? In our current system 95% of mankind's creative potential and motivation is being wasted to enable a handful of billionaires to buy mega-yachts and do joy-rides into space. Any concern you have about billionaires losing money or motivation multiplies 1,000,000-fold across the general population in our current system. That's the absurdity of it. A billionaire could run out of quarters for playing a slot machine and you'd be like: "But how will this poor billionaire make it in the world? What will cause him to wake up every morning if we don't give him his bag of quarters? What if he gets sad? What if he cries? What if he decides to quit life? Let's not take any chances. Let's hire a slave to bring him his bag of quarters and suck his dick too, just to be safe. We don't want to upset him."

That sword cuts both ways. The problem is not the girls, it's your attachment to needing their love.

Be careful with such gross generalizations. Who says they have to be intellectuals? That's your subjective bias. There are many more ways to live life than as an intellectual on YT. Again, your bias is causing you to lose sight of other modes of doing spiritual work. The majority of spiritual work in the world is done via group and communal settings. People meditate together, drink psychedelics together, have orgies together, pray together, go to church together, etc. Even monks live together and fuck each other.

@captainamerica Lol

You are confusing two things: their work is necessary, but their wealth is not. If a school teacher can do a good job on $50k/yr, then so can a CEO. Just because you make necessary contributions to mankind does not mean you are entitled to charge a billion dollars for it. Here's what you're missing about the psychology of billionaires. If we took away all of Elon Musk's money, he would still do his work. Because money is not what motivates him. These people are workaholics. They will work even if you tax them 100%.

Don't worry. It's not going to be, thanks to folks like you.

This is false. Like I told you but you failed to understand, this frame that billionaires create all their wealth is purely a social construction. Again, according to your logic, kings and slavemasters come by their wealth through value creation too, therefore it is immoral to take away kingdoms and slave plantations. This is, in fact, exactly what kings and slavemasters said. Billionaires do not create their wealth. They leech it from workers. It is not possible to create a billion dollars in value otherwise. Don't even start quoting consciousness at me. Your devil mind will use "consciousness" to justify whatever selfish thing you believe.

$10 million is literally plenty of reward for ANY job on the planet. You know what feels really shitty? Paying someone who works in the hot sun picking strawberries all day long $20/day. How about rewarding them? Why do you not care about properly rewarding 99% of the workforce, but you are so passionate about rewarding the top 0.01% who are already so highly rewarded that literally they cannot feel the difference when we add an extra billion to their bank account? Do you see how fucked up your priorities are? How about rewarding teachers, police, firefighters, soldiers, mothers, construction workers, fast food workers, Amazon warehouse workers, delivery drivers? See, you don't give a fuck about these people who are being exploited to make Jeff Bezos a billionaire. Billionaires are a lot more analogous to kings than to the existence of money itself. Money is a necessary and important technology. Billionaires are not necessary, like kings. All this is true of slavery. In the 1850s you'd be in a public forum shouting that our society is not evolved enough to abolish slavery and that we cannot function without slaves. Out of slaves, massive wealth creation, etc. We can even fuck them for free. How can a man live without having slaves to fuck? Our society cannot handle it.

First off all, I'm not saying we should right now tax billionaires at 100%. I was just making a general point that IF we did tax them at 100%, it could be reasonable and it would not be some kind of "theft". Secondly, it depends a lot on our time horizon. Today such ideas would not fly. But in 100 years they might become the norm. When I talk about politics I generally focus on what's feasible within my lifetime. We would be lucky to get a 2% tax within my lifetime. So I am not at all worried about overtaxing the rich. I will be long dead before a serious person utters the words, "My God! We've made a horrible mistake. We've over-taxed the rich."

I am not saying to print wealth. It can certainly be distributed better. If Amazon employees got double their salary, society would be better off. That you can't see this shows your lack of vision. You frame this situation as though we would be stealing money from Jeff Bezos. But consider another frame: Bezos stole most of his money from Amazon employees. You see, 500 years ago, a king would claim that all the money in the country was his. And when people suggested to change that system, the king righteously felt that they would stealing all his money. But the deeper truth was that the king got all his money by stealing it from the people. So the people took it back and killed the king. No one gets a billion dollars by earning it. You get a billion dollars by stealing it. This is crucial to understand. The logic you are using is exactly the same logic that was used to justify kingdoms. You are assuming that a billionaire's wealth rightly belongs to him. But this purely a social construction.

I have always been for the taxation for the rich. Nothing has changed. Now you're conflating matters. Of course I am perfectly aware that billionaires today exist for a reason and it could not be otherwise. Just like slavery existed for a reason and it could not be otherwise 200 years ago. But that does not mean slavery would last. Neither will billionaires. They will go extinct like kings. This conversation is not about the absolute domain, it's a discussion about policies we should adopt in the relative domain in the future. I am not here morally judging billionaires. I am pointing out that the situation for society is dysfunctional and unwholesome. A more conscious society would curb such foolishness.

They don't have to be criminals to justify a 100% tax. There is no reason whatsoever that society should allow billionaires to exist. There is no right to be a billionaire. A conscious society would recognize that any individual holding over a billion dollars is harmful to the society as a whole, simply in principle. In the same way individuals holding nuclear weapons is harmful to society as a whole and it is thus not allowed. What you have yet to realize is that just the very fact of holding a billion dollars harms the billionaire, his family, his friends, his colleagues, and society at large. It is like being morbidly obese. It is not good for you and it is a poor allocation of social resources. See, if you had a billion dollars and you mother was dying of cancer due to inability to pay for her doctor, but you desired to hoard your billions, we would call that a sick situation. Well, that's what's happening in society at large today. And you are justifying it as normal and even as a right of yours.

What you call brain and proof is 100% mind. You have never encountered anything in life which wasn't mind. There is nothing to prove or debate. Case closed.

Consider that it might actually be easier to awaken as an extrovert because introverts tend to be very lost in their minds. You have interpreted enlightenment as sort of extreme introversion when actually you could think of it as more like extreme extroversion. The inner world is snuffed out. Technically, inner and outer worlds become One, so it's a moot point.

Nope People gotta work different amounts to get the same results. And some people can't get the same result no matter how hard they work. I am never gonna be a Victoria Secret model no matter how hard I work.

@molosku I was not even talking about nonduality. You shouldove reality even if you are stuck in duality.

@FlyingLotus That is creepy.

This is BS. I know extroverted enlightened folk.

So hurry the fuck up and realize it. Life is a passin'

Math sounds very forced and inauthentic.

You're simply more conscious than the typical human. This is okay. You just need to find the right niche for yourself. Why are you working in the hot sun? Work smarter not harder. Obviously the first step for you is to upgrade to a better job, one you can tolerate. Then you can chip away at the CEO thing. But for now you need to focus on upgrading your current line of work. Not all jobs are that shitty. Again, work smarter, not harder. If you're gonna be earning $1400/mo, at least find a job that's not backbreaking. You could work at Starbucks for that. You need to look for jobs that give you free time to study and work on your own side hustle. You can also picks jobs which are low-stress and low-effort and have other perks. Who is the one that made you work in the hot sun? You! You chose that shit one way or another. Don't worry, you're still young. You can change all that.

Damn, I'd fuck me Then again, who else is there?

@spinderella Those things you love, do them more. Doctor's orders The place you're trying to get to is Love. But you're going about it ass-backwards.

You have no clue the challenges women face.