How much do most voters really care about governance?

[Hardkill]

We've talked a lot before about how most people in the US who are not very bright and are low information, lowly education voters don't really care about a political leader's policies or about how governance actually works in the system, especially in this day and age. They are more interested in how appealing and how aligned a certain's candidates cultural values are to most of his/her constituents:

On 3/14/2023 at 11:33 AM, Leo Gura said:

Most people are extremely politically ignorant and fundamentally uninterested in policy and governance. Most people treat politics as a tribal sport. Serious policy is hard to pass that way.

However, people do give credit or blame a politician and/or the party in power for how well the country is doing including the economy, foreign/military affairs outside of the country, what changes have been made in policy, whether or not an officeholder was involved in some kind of scandal, and the public order or tranquility in the country. The voters also vote based on how successful and cohesive the politician and/or the party in power has been politically:

On 11/15/2022 at 9:27 PM, Leo Gura said:

Dems just need to focus on doing a good just governing. Good governance speaks for itself. Moderates will be convinced by good governance and serious candidates who are not strong ideologues.

The strategy is basically: be a decent human being, have some positive vision, and govern effectively.

On 9/10/2023 at 11:42 PM, Leo Gura said:

They like it when a politician takes bold action towards a larger vision which he sold them.

A politician doesn't sell policy, he sells a general vision or ethos, such as: "Stop the woke crap" or "Down with corporate power".

 

Does this mean that most voters do actually care about governance, but only from a broad or general point of view?

 

 

Edited March 7 by Hardkill

[bebotalk]

Most people's engagement with politics is when they vote. Or they may see a political TV talk show or a popular streamer like Destiny, Hasan, or Vaush. 

Many don't have an in-depth knowledge of political science or theory. Most wouldn't know that not all fascism is Nazism, for instance. And that's perfectly fine. People are concerned with living their lives foremost. 

Politicians should sell visions, as the point of politics is creating and implementing a vision of how society should be run. 

[BlueOak]

They care about their wallets and what makes them feel good/bad to hear or their values and belief systems and thus their identity.

Generally, they like short-term answers, which makes long-term complex problems generally unsolvable or only addressed by chance. 

It is a failing of education that people teach subjects not systems.

[bebotalk]

It's human nature to be somewhat short-termist. However, I think most people accept the need for effort in climate change. Or to tackle social issues such as discrimination. 

[Hardkill]

On 3/8/2024 at 5:45 AM, BlueOak said:

They care about their wallets and what makes them feel good/bad to hear or their values and belief systems and thus their identity.

Generally, they like short-term answers, which makes long-term complex problems generally unsolvable or only addressed by chance. 

It is a failing of education that people teach subjects not systems.

What about major policy changes, public order or tranquility, moral rectitude of their leaders, and military/foreign affairs under the watch of the incumbent officeholder/party?