Playing with Perspectives

[Sugarcoat]

13 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

 

That’s when the self appears . 👺(referring to the ocean drop quote)

Edited August 26 by Sugarcoat

[UnbornTao]

8 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

That’s when the self appears . 👺(referring to the ocean drop quote)

Ask Kabir.

Yes, it sounds like that's what he's referring to. But where's your sense of the mysterious?

Edited August 26 by UnbornTao

[Sugarcoat]

Just now, UnbornTao said:

Ask Kabir.

Yes, it sounds like that's what he's referring to. But where's your sense of mystery?

I may be wrong so that’s my sense of mystery (whatever you even mean with that question)

[UnbornTao]

Just now, Sugarcoat said:

I may be wrong so that’s my sense of mystery (whatever you even mean with that question)

Just that it might be communicating something deeper, different from what we think. It's poetry, after all. 

We're supposed to be a bit perplexed by it, and hopefully experience something new. 

[Sugarcoat]

15 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

Just that it might be communicating something deeper, different from what we think. It's poetry, after all. 

 

Ofc, I wondered about it when I read it, I just wrote what first came to mind. But it remains a mystery 

15 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

 

We're supposed to be a bit perplexed by it, and hopefully experience something new. 

It’s an unique perspective I haven’t heard of before indeed!

[UnbornTao]

@Sugarcoat

Definitely, I recommend checking out his poetry:

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I sell mirrors in the city of the blind.

Haha.

[Schizophonia]

@UnbornTao Do you know William Blake?

[UnbornTao]

[UnbornTao]

3 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

@UnbornTao Do you know William Blake?

I'm not familiar with his work but I've heard of him and read some of his poems. Interesting person. Why do you ask? 

Edited August 26 by UnbornTao

[Sugarcoat]

1 hour ago, UnbornTao said:

@Sugarcoat

Definitely, I recommend checking out his poetry:

Haha.

Cool

[Schizophonia]

18 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

I'm not familiar with his work but I've heard of him and read some of his poems. Interesting person. Why do you ask? 

He was mystical and got close to non dual philosophy.

[UnbornTao]

42 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

He was mystical and got close to non dual philosophy.

I see, thanks for that.

Edited August 27 by UnbornTao

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Matter is made up of units tens of thousands of times smaller than a particle of dust, coming into existence and disappearing in as little as a trillionth of the blink of an eye.

- Buddha.

 

Edited September 5 by UnbornTao

[UnbornTao]

Interchange of Issai Chozanshi with students

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A student asked:
Can a spiritual aspirant (Zen monk) who moves to overcome the concepts of life and death attain liberation as it is defined by the art of swordsmanship?

He answered:
The goal of the exercise is different. This one hates the cycle of rebirth and lives in anticipation of his total extinction. He has estranged himself from life and death by binding his heart to death from the beginning. Therefore, when he finds himself surrounded by several opponents, even if form should turn to dust, he will immediately render his thoughts motionless. However, he rejects the demands of life. The only thing that he does not do is hate death. But to say that life and death form a unity for this one is different from our attitude. To surrender to life while alive and to death at dying is not to divide the Heart [Being]. Fulfill its way by following what is just! In this way does one attain liberation.

Another asked:
It is one point of view to confront life and death without preference or aversion. Yet, when a person rejects the demands of life, does he not act freely?

He replied:
From the beginning, he turns his Heart elsewhere. Total extinction is the most important thing for that person. The demands of life do not interest him; for him only death is possible. For precisely this reason, he does not succeed in freeing himself from the demands of life. Life and death should not be perceived as a duality. In life one fulfills the Way of life and in death one fulfills the Way of death. Mind is not stirred in the slightest and the thoughts are motionless. Therefore, one is free in life and free in death. In contrast, that other person sees nothing but illusion and deception in the creation; nothing but dream and pretense in the world of man. And thus he believes that to fulfill the Way of life means to cling to life and to suffocate in its activities.

One asked:
But what about the fact that since ancient times swordsmen have joined with Zen monks and have learned their most profound secrets?

He answered:
Only when the heart is balanced will a person be able to measure up to things completely. On the other hand, a person will suffer from life if he desires it and clings to it. If a person is roused and agitated in all the fibers of his Heart then it only shows that his relationship to life is wrong. Those people of whom you speak had turned their wills to this art for many years, indulging in no rest, exerting their life force and mastering the technique; yet, the Heart had not opened in victory and defeat. They spent years and months being angry and indignant. Then they joined with a Zen monk and were taught the Principle of life and death. When they heard that all things of this world are merely transfigurations of the Heart, their Hearts opened up immediately and their spirits were calm. They released themselves from their former goals and thus became free. They had created the prerequisites for that act by having exerted their life force for many years and proving themselves in activity. He who has not yet matured in this way may follow the famous and wise teachings but he will still not gain enlightenment!

 

Edited September 7 by UnbornTao

[UnbornTao]

Enjoyed watching The Count of Monte Cristo.

[UnbornTao]

 

Edited September 7 by UnbornTao

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[UnbornTao]

Turned the moon into a boomerang:

Meditation's paying off.

Edited Thursday at 01:16 PM by UnbornTao