Leo's "enlightenment"

[beatlesman]

Christians who take LSD can have visions of Jesus, their mental preoccupation. Leo's mental preoccupation is enlightenment, and he had a vision of that. How am I wrong?

[abrakamowse]

11 hours ago, beatlesman said:

Christians who take LSD can have visions of Jesus, their mental preoccupation. Leo's mental preoccupation is enlightenment, and he had a vision of that. How am I wrong?

It's possible, but I am Christian and I had an epiphany that it was very similar to what Leo described. And I saw or understood things in a way that goes very against the beliefs of the Church.

 

I still consider myself Christian, but I had to go to the mystic christian experiences to understand what was happening to my ego.

Edited January 2, 2017 by abrakamowse

[Neo]

Some Christians can have experiences of being saved / being born again which could be argued are very similar to enlightenment.

Edited January 2, 2017 by Neo

[abrakamowse]

I think if your ego believes something, it can happen that you can have a kind of "mystic" experience that can be related to your beliefs/religion/etc.... That's why we have to take the experiences as that, just experiences. Say thanks and continue your path.

"Experiences will only lead you to more experiences"  (I don't remember the author) :-P

 

Enlightenment is not an experience, it's a shift in consciousness.

[Neo]

21 minutes ago, abrakamowse said:

Enlightenment is not an experience, it's a shift in consciousness.

No, don't point to the semantics of my post as a way of explanation. I know someone who had a religious *experience for want of a better word*, and then saw the whole world upside down, viewed money differently, left their partner, changed their entire outlook, etc, etc.

[abrakamowse]

4 minutes ago, Neo said:

No, don't point to the semantics of my post as a way of explanation. I know someone who had a religious *experience for want of a better word*, and then saw the whole world upside down, viewed money differently, left their partner, changed their entire outlook, etc, etc.

To be honest I don't know what enlightenment is and I have no idea why I wrote it anyway. I think it was my ego trying to show he is so "smart".
 

But what I was trying to say was in the first part of my post, that it is possible to have a true experience or a fake one.

 

Sorry!!!

[Bebop]

@beatlesman It's not the experience itself but the realization that there is no one having the experience

Edited January 2, 2017 by Bebop