Causing the un-causal?

[aclokay]

We are stuck.

Why do you choose to believe the traditions and teachers that Enlightenment is possible,
yet completely ignore the fact that they all say It's absolute and primordial, meaning it's always here. 

I mean, not just an 'awakening' experience, but a complete full blown enlightenment. 

Isn't reality fractal? isn't  every awakening experience, much like  a shape  in the fractal,   is just embedded within another shape,? 

Could it be we are just justifying our own ego trip?

@Leo Gura

[eputkonen]

It is possible for suffering to cease to arise. 

The Buddha said awakening/enlightenment is the cessation of dukkha (often translated as suffering).  Obviously, if there is a pre-enlightenment with suffering arising and a post-enlightenment in which suffering ceases to arise...then that revelation/realization of the truth (i.e. dispelling ignorance) has to occur in a point in time for each body/mind and it would be incorrect to say "it's always here".  The truth may always be here...but that seeing what is as it is (seeing the truth) is not always here.

 

I know suffering can cease to arise...not a chosen belief...it is my experience.

 

 

Edited March 30, 2019 by eputkonen

[Leo Gura]

@aclokay No

Go awaken and see for yourself. It will not be anything you imagine.