What I Have Learned About Dating Women In My Age Range

[Loreena]

Just now, electroBeam said:

You said it in one word. You think it's ridiculous that I think a man is stereotyped as being a rapist.

Even though you conjectured that

If you want to solve the world's problems, you need to stop assuming (as you clearly showed above) that its impossible to be raped by a woman.

Why is that fact above important? It's not, it's just there to stereotype. It doesnt matter who the majority is. Rape is rape no matter who the majority gender is. That just causes division.

A man is not stereotyped as a rapist. I never said all men are rapists. Why are you having this terrible habit of making things up. 

Like I said before,  rape is a crime,  and therefore a woman should be sent to jail if she rapes a man.  

It does matter what majority and minority does. It's all about facts and statistics. Have you ever read stats.  That's why we have those subjects. Facts don't stop being facts just because they are difficult for you to digest.  Facts are important to solve crimes.  Those who use it as a weapon to demonize the gender are the ones who are dividing. I wasn't the one to mention rape in the first place because Its irrelevant here.  I just wanted to show you the fact because you appeared to be selectively ignoring a lot for your own interests. 

[electroBeam]

2 minutes ago, Loreena said:

Those who use it as a weapon to demonize the gender 

 

1 hour ago, Loreena said:

So majority victims are men ?

Yes. Please stop using it to demonize a gender.

Thankyou have a nice day.

[Loreena]

11 minutes ago, electroBeam said:

You said it in one word. You think it's ridiculous that I think a man is stereotyped as being a rapist.

 

Not only you don't bother to read, you misinterpret a lot for your own good. 

I said ridiculous for a lot of reasons.  

First is the stats.  

Second you are yourself stereotyping a man as a rapist.  

Third You are kind of trivializing rape by using the word fault when it's a crime.  

Fourth you're saying it's a man's fault when she does it.  Is that even logical. How does it make sense.  Isn't that victim blaming.  How is it a man to be blamed if she is the perpetrator.  And how do you just go about assuming that I will be fine with it.  All assumptions ?

Can't you clearly see that the one who does it should go to jail. And why do you think others will think otherwise. 

How do you automatically assume that men were stereotyped as rapists when such a blanket statement was never made in the first place. 

Say it to those who say it.  But Don't just assume it for those who don't. 

[electroBeam]

@Loreena the reason why a lot of academics say rape culture exists on university campuses is 1 example of how society thinks men are rapists. 

It's right in front of your eyes.

[Guest username]

Since there's so much emotional baggage around this topic, it would probably make a good serious contemplation question.

"What issues exist between genders?"

I'm not targeting anyone in particular when I say this since it applies to all of us. Let's make sure we're looking internally when discussing this, like we would with anything else.

If something is disturbing ,try becoming directly conscious of what that is, and also try to find the limits of your own knowledge to prevent yourself from becoming an ideological crusader.

Essentially practice:

-Mindfulness

-Holism

-Multi-perspectivism 

- Not Knowing

-Systems Thinking

 

Like we would with anything else.

 

Edited June 28, 2017 by username

[Guest username]

@electroBeam To be fair, it's fine to make such a claim if there is evidence for it.

Now, I'm not saying there is or isn't evidence.

The discussions that have been going on in this thread have lots facets and can easily branch out onto new issues. There are a lot of emotional triggers a long the way, too.

 

[Guest username]

Something I will say from what I've studied on this topic is that men and women are both extremely guilty of using social issues as an unconscious means to serve their ego/self-agenda (surprise, surprise).

As a man, I've been trash-talked by feminists and accused of being sexist when I wasn't even trying to antagonize women, or even when I was doing my best to be a decent human being. Not all are like that, but I've certainly had my share of those who absolutely didn't care about my issues and only addressed my problems in terms of how it made them feel.

I generally received more empathy from men in this regard. However, I've noticed that while men tend to relate to my problems better, women are much better at being open and agreeable. That is, I've met more women who are at least willing to listen to different perspectives on gender dynamics and be friendly about it than I've met men who were willing to do the same.

I've spoken with just as many men who shamed me and called me a sellout or a cuck for even considering women's rights as I have women who called my a patriarchal moron for asserting that men also have serious issues and face unjust discrimination.

Both sides are ridden with egoic delusion though, and like with all things, lack of consciousness is the primary issue.

 

[Will]

4 hours ago, Loreena said:

 feel unjustified

dont we all.. its more our own battle than it is the world being unfair to us thou..

4 hours ago, Loreena said:

already tough be a woman in this world

for men too.. besides that point, we have labelled our situation tough, because of our identifications, brain, and ego ect.. we mostly make things tough , because we judge , remember, don't let things go hold grudges, unfairly forecast, and hinder ourselves in soo many ways... I would say its also possible to consider we make our lives hard, and that life is intrinsically ,actually pretty easy. I guess that's what we are trying to embody here.. we all get that and understand but we don't live it yet.. Well I don't...

 

4 hours ago, Loreena said:

misogyny arises out of a deeply patriarchal mentality

In my perspective this is a somewhat superficial issue, id say that there are underlying issues that would be more effective to work on.. These superficial things ( I don't mean to undermine this issue) Can tend to distract us ??