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What if everyone suffers equally?

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Pure speculation but since we cant know about the qualia of physical pain or psychological suffering of other people, what if life is designed in a way that everyone suffers equally? What if the rich businessman who is void inside suffers the same as the guy who is tortured to death by terrorist? People at least seem to be equally motivated by suffering.

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11 minutes ago, MM1988 said:

Pure speculation but since we cant know about the qualia of physical pain or psychological suffering of other people, what if life is designed in a way that everyone suffers equally? What if the rich businessman who is void inside suffers the same as the guy who is tortured to death by terrorist? People at least seem to be equally motivated by suffering.

Some people suffer a lot more than others. How can we know? Easy.

People who suffer a lot usually will complain about suffering or how bad their lives are. Someone who doesn’t suffer a lot will just carry on with his life.

If a rich businessman suffered a lot, you would see him trying to lessen his suffering by taking drugs, alcohol or other distractions. Yet many of those businessmen are clean and you don’t see them complain about anything.

If somebody suffers so much, you will see the tiredness and frustration in there faces. When suffering accumulates to a certain amount, it tends to sap all of the person’s energy. And yet some people are smiling, look quite open and happy, they go everywhere, they never complain about life.

How then can you say that everybody suffers the same? Common sense.


"Wanting keeps me from the awareness I already have it. I already am it.” — Byron Katie

 

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@How to be wise Sure, but what about depression? A severely depressed person may suffer much more than the raging alcoholic, or the compulsive gambler, but just not show it. You're saying that you can tell how much a person is suffering just by observing how they act, but I don't think could be any further from the truth. Think about all the times people were absolutely dumbfounded at the fact that so and so mr/mrs perfect killed themselves. The amount of suffering one must endure to make the decision to end their own life is unimaginable, still there's no telling if those traumas will manifest themselves physically or not. Take Robin Williams, on the surface he seemed like a million dollars, but just under the limited perception of our human minds lied a man fraught with misery. I guess what i'm saying is that everyone suffers in their own way, chances are a lot of us suffer similarly to the way that say a widower or a plane crash survivor feel, simply because we have all agreed to live by the law of nature which IS impermanence. The well off business man has to deal with the sorrow of having to maintain his image as a successful business person for the rest of his life, and he has to live with the knowledge that that's all he will ever amount to. Might seem incomparable to a child suffering from starvation in Africa, but alas the two feel pain which is equally as real for the both of them. The thing is everyone expresses their pain differently, the starving child in Africa may wear a smile all of his life simply because he is alive, yet her pain is no less real than anyone else's. I guess the real question would be how does one measure suffering? Because suffering, after all, is just a perception. 

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