Is Sadhguru a Charlatan?

[Hojo]

6 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You can do anything your whole life and get nowhere.

This is not an argument in the direction of yoga being better for awakening.

It can randomly happen.

You cant even know if awakening is a purely random event or not.

Its like a deer jumping out of the woods and raping you.

If yoga awaken you then every sadhguru follower should be awaken at his ashrams.

We should have 1000s of sadhgurus.

Edited 2 hours ago by Hojo

[Leo Gura]

3 minutes ago, Hojo said:

This is not an argument in the direction of yoga being better for awakening.

It can randomly happen.

You cant even know if awakening is a purely random event or not.

I can assure you it is no random event.

Yoga is not as effective as psychedelics, but as far as manual practices go, it's as good as things get, if you're doing the right kind of yoga in the right ways.

I don't know what Sadhguru's most advanced yoga looks like. So I recommend Kriya Yoga instead.

Edited 2 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Hojo]

@Leo Gura Where are the awakened ones by Sadhguru? If they awaken and then work for him and worship him then, who knows if they are awake or not.

Or else he is the literal guru of millions of people. Once in a Earth time guru of millions worldwide.

None go out making seperate companies making the save the planet movement so massive you cannot ignore it, they all stay there worship him. If Yoga was an awakening device than Sadhguru be pumping out awakened left and right everyday.

I think being exiled has a higher chance of awakening than yoga.

Being exiled is the highest possible chance of natural awakening.

I think that awaken Sadhguru.

Edited 2 hours ago by Hojo

[Leo Gura]

8 minutes ago, Hojo said:

Where are the awakened ones by Sadhguru?

Hard to say. We don't know his best students. They are mostly in India.

I'm sure he has some. But of course not most.

Most people won't Awaken under any teacher because it is just too hard and they are too lazy.

Edited 2 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Hojo]

I think Sadhguru is making people feel really good and having them direct their energy at him. Like he did it.

Edited 1 hour ago by Hojo

[Sugarcoat]

On 2026-11-10 at 9:42 PM, Carl-Richard said:

Mysticism vs theism (they're not mutually exclusive but still distinctions).

Definitely in Christianity. Faith, hope, etc. (and submission in Islam). It's a product of the Axial revolution (the evolution from a circular to a linear/transcendent worldview). You see it less in Hinduism. And nature religions that predate Christianity (e.g. Norse paganism). But it's all religion.

Yes, there is a difference in cognitive development (or at least the cultural code associated with it), hence Blue vs Green. Conformism is stronger at Blue than Green. But there is still conformism, community, belief in Green and any cultural code. It's not a hard line. A category like "religion" vs not religion, you would want a hard line somewhere, a definition. A new-ager has faith and hope in awakening being real and possible, even if they're not currently awake or is yet to experience it, even despite hardship.

I see your points and probably agree overall. In regards to these things, especially religion, I mostly know of it by how it's expressed in society amongst the average populations in those crowds. I bet if I sat down and studied it myself, I'd get a different view, so I take with a grain of salt, the interpretations and positions the masses hold. New Age is so broad too, breath work to crystals to non duality (if that can count as part of it).

But bottom line for me, recognizing the ego, the breakdown/dissolution process of it, more or less, is core to spirituality. I don't define spirituality, but I almost don't see how you could be doing it properly without that being core part of your journey. It doesn't have to go "all the way", but just the need for softening at least.

Edited 35 minutes ago by Sugarcoat