The Fear of Truth

[VeganAwake]

17 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Then if you have OCD and you are the whole day ruminating about getting sick and your basis feeling is horror, it's an illusion and you are already free. Maybe you live in a box in the street and you think that you are already millionaire. 

Again: if your experience is closed, you are closed, if you are sad because your cat died, you are sad, and that is, it's not an illusion, it's sadness. You can call it illusion or as you want, but it exists. The reality is, let say, real. 

What's being said is ruminating about being sick, horror feelings, thinking you are millionaire, feeling closed and sad...........is freedom disguised as something other.

The apparent issue is: The self illusion wants reality/freedom to be in accordance with its beliefs about what that should be/feel like.

Liberation isn't just rainbows and unicorns..........it's everything.......it's all inclusive........it excludes nothing.

 

[VeganAwake]

Liberation is when the needy self illusion that wants reality to be a certain way, dies!

It doesn't actually die though because it's not actually real, it's just recognized as having never been real.

It's recognizing there was never anyone imprisoned to begin with. 

[Breakingthewall]

3 hours ago, VeganAwake said:

What's being said is ruminating about being sick, horror feelings, thinking you are millionaire, feeling closed and sad...........is freedom disguised as something other.

Sure, and being a homeless is being a millionaire disguised as something else

3 hours ago, VeganAwake said:

Liberation is when the needy self illusion that wants reality to be a certain way, dies!

No, liberation is when the self that wants freedom manage to break the barriers that keep it imprisoned. The self never dies being a human because it exists. For example, question: ice cream or Apache torture? 5 seconds to choose 

 

Edited 12 hours ago by Breakingthewall