as tier 2 you need to become rich

[Ulax]

Unhealthy versions of lower stages ragebait me

[AION]

I’m not looking down on tier 1.  I’m protecting myself from tier 1 stupidity by putting a wall between me and tier 1 people. In the same way I want a wall between me and a wild beast like a lion or an ape. Even this forum is filled with primitive people. This forum can’t function without going ape shit once a year. Just imagine putting these actualized apes on an island and what would happen. Most average Joes are stupidly dangerous. We should thank the elites for even wanting to rule us dumb fucks. Notice how most advance countries have an elite. Elites are top of the pyramid and for the pyramid (civilization) to exist at all we need to protect the elite because if it is up to the riff raff they want to destroy the elite which would bring down civilization. Because they are the one with the brains and have actually tier 2 vision logic on the cognitive developmental line. Nobody on this forum has vision logic. It is a very rare trait. 

[AION]

3 hours ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

The most interesting thing in your message isn't the tier theory, it's the moment with the wealthy guy. You felt the block, said it out loud, and he respected it. That's real tier 2 behavior: honesty about your own interior instead of performing confidence.

Now the part I'd challenge. In Spiral Dynamics, the defining mark of tier 2 is that it sees every stage as a necessary part of the whole, so contempt for tier 1 is usually a sign you're not fully there yet. Your own words give it away: "drive you crazy," "resentment," "riff raff," "infect you." That's a reaction, not an integration. Tier 2 doesn't need to separate the weed from the chaff, it knows the chaff was the grain of an earlier season. You can set boundaries with people without ranking their worth.

Same with the pyramid. Complex societies do tend to produce hierarchies, but "without the elite there is no civilization" is a claim, not a fact, and it's convenient for anyone who sees themselves on the upper levels. Also, wealth and developmental depth are different axes. You just noticed that rich people are egocentric by your own account, which means money doesn't track tier at all.

Here's what I'm curious about: when a tier 1 person triggers that resentment, what exactly is being threatened in you? And is it possible that the "inner block" with the rich guy and the strong reaction to scarcity-minded people are the same wound seen from two sides?

Tier 1 people are very hard headed. For example at work or in business, I give them good advice and they still do what they want to do. Fuck up and bring other people with them. And sometimes that involves me too. I want to become rich so I can impose my decision onto them as the boss. Because if you are just regular employee you can’t impose and have to argue with every moron. They lack basic logic. And I’m not in the business to teach basic logic. 

There is a reason why companies aren’t democracies. If regular employees would get a say all companies would go bankrupt. 
 

That is probably the down turn of democracy. Tier 1 tyranny overruling tier 2 people. 

Edited 34 minutes ago by AION

[Schizophonia]

You are what you project, that is to say not “tier 2”.