The expression of Pure Love

[Mellowmarsh]

8 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Nobody, it's obvious, I see it right now. 

Yep, you see nobody telling you. 

[Breakingthewall]

5 hours ago, VeganAwake said:

Yes, the living body seemingly has perception. 

But there isn't a you/perceptor.

The experiencer isn't actually there.

The body is empty.......no soul, no self, no you

 

But iit s full of organs or are also imaginary? For example, the brain is real? Or really the scull is empty?

[VeganAwake]

21 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

But iit s full of organs or are also imaginary? For example, the brain is real? Or really the scull is empty?

There's just no "you" asking these questions. The questions seem to arise from an apparent someone, but upon close introspection, it's nobody.

The body functions and the self illusion takes credit for all of it!

[Breakingthewall]

6 hours ago, VeganAwake said:

There's just no "you" asking these questions. The questions seem to arise from an apparent someone, but upon close introspection, it's nobody.

The body functions and the self illusion takes credit for all of it!

Who does that introspection? That introspection is so precise that after doing it you know that the self is an illusion? How? Because you did that introspection and you arrive to the conclusion, suggested by the non dualistic, that there is not a self?

Maybe it's just an opinion don't you think so? In your opinion the self is illusory because you did an inspection and you didn't find any self. What did you expect to find? A self saying hello? Where? 

I think that's obvious that the label "illusory" is just a personal label, maybe the idea of self is different for you than for other people, then what exactly is an illusion? Forget the world "self", imagine that you never thought about that term, what exactly is an illusion? The idea that arises that you are a human?

Edited 10 hours ago by Breakingthewall

[VeganAwake]

6 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Who does that introspection? That introspection is so precise that after doing it you know that the self is an illusion? How? Because you did that introspection and you arrive to the conclusion, suggested by the non dualistic, that there is not a self?

Maybe it's just an opinion don't you think so? In your opinion the self is illusory because you did an inspection and you didn't find any self. What did you expect to find? A self saying hello? Where? 

I think that's obvious that the label "illusory" is just a personal label, maybe the idea of self is different for you than for other people, then what exactly is an illusion? Forget the world "self", imagine that you never thought about that term, what exactly is an illusion? The idea that arises that you are a human?

Nobody does it, but it's still recognized and recognized clearly. Why? Who knows!

Yes, the idea that arises "I am this human" just arises and then is permanently assumed and typically never challenged.

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, VeganAwake said:

Yes, the idea that arises "I am this human" just arises and then is permanently assumed and typically never challenged.

Well, there is a human that exists and can die right? It's a really, so that idea is the representation of a reality that's happening .

1 hour ago, VeganAwake said:

Nobody does it, but it's still recognized and recognized clearly. Why? Who knows!

If there is a recognition of anything there is a processor that does that recognition, a system that qualifies reality in categories, so you could say that you are that system, because without it "illusion" or "real" wouldn't mean anything