Hyper Normalisation.

[Mellowmarsh]

 

Has anyone watched “ Hyper Normalisation “ on BBC iPlayer? It’s very interesting. But it’s just under 3 hours long, but no ads thankfully.

 

HyperNormalisation is a 2016 BBC documentary by filmmaker Adam Curtis that argues governments, financiers, and technocrats have built a simplified, fake version of reality over the past 40 years to mask complex global problems. 

 

Core Thesis

The Fake World: Instead of handling complex realities like economic crashes or geopolitical conflict, politicians and institutions retreated into a managed, reassuring illusion. 

The Term: Curtis borrowed the title from anthropologist Alexei Yurchak's work on the late Soviet Union, where citizens and officials knowingly maintained the pretense of a failing system until that collective fiction became accepted as normal. 

Complicity: Society went along with the illusion because simplicity felt safe, leaving leadership paralyzed and unable to handle real crises. 

 

Key Themes and Events

Trumping Reality: Traces how financial shifts in 1970s New York allowed figures like Donald Trump to leverage the city's decay, and how modern political figures use strategic confusion (such as Vladislav Surkov's political theater in Russia).

Global Chaos: Connects Cold War policies and Middle Eastern interventions to modern catastrophes, including the Syrian civil war, the migrant crisis, and the rise of suicide bombing. 

The Rise of Post-Truth: Explains inexplicable modern shocks—like Brexit and Trump's election—as the moment when hidden, neglected historical forces finally pierced through the artificial bubble

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[Mellowmarsh]

Mods move this if it’s in the wrong section. Apologies if it is.

[kavaris]

7 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Mods move this if it’s in the wrong section. Apologies if it is.

Hey. Id respond to it in the context of a more spiritual-esque thing, if you want, but thats prolly jus me... i know others dont think like i do tho, and want everything to be distinct.

[Mellowmarsh]

Just now, kavaris said:

Hey. Id respond to it in the context of a more spiritual-esque thing, if you want, but thats prolly jus me... i know others dont think like i do tho, and want everything to be distinct.

I think the documentary is right up your street. 
 

It even mentions something about The Grateful Dead somewhere in the programme. It’s a coincidence that you just happened to be the first to respond to this thread. 

[kavaris]

1 minute ago, Mellowmarsh said:

I think the documentary is right up your street. 
 

It even mentions something about The Grateful Dead somewhere in the programme. It’s a coincidence that you just happened to be the first to respond to this thread. 

i see grateful dead, i *click* grateful dead.

[Mellowmarsh]

2 minutes ago, kavaris said:

i see grateful dead, i *click* grateful dead.

I think human society is steeped with the Spiritual underpinnings that refer to our core values, philosophical beliefs, and transcendent principles that support a person's worldview, actions, or an institution's framework. So that’s why I posted in spirituality forum. 

[kavaris]

14 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

I think human society is steeped with the Spiritual underpinnings that refer to our core values, philosophical beliefs, and transcendent principles that support a person's worldview, actions, or an institution's framework. So that’s why I posted in spirituality forum. 

Oooo i had a SiiiiQ thought...

"Politically fueled Hymn to Trumpaeus"

[kavaris]

Our god... lord in heaven (now its turnin into like an elogy)

Trumpaeus... Time

The trim, true and proper...

The Guide, the clock tower

Time... Running

Trump... Singing

etc.

etc...

[Mellowmarsh]

Watching the documentary made me think about how some humans are like cancer cells just hell bent on destroying their host. 
Such is the nature of life. I’ve heard many people say they think humans are like cancer cells. Most humans are normal cells thank God.

 

 

[kavaris]

1 minute ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Watching the documentary made me think about how some humans are like cancer cells just hell bent on destroying their host. 
Such is the nature of life. I’ve heard many people say they think humans are like cancer cells. Most humans are normal cells thank God.

I know jus what ya mean. I wanna say i felt that same thing today. Granted, i sorta forget exactly wat it was now, but it had a similar sorta tone, of which was like this "humans are becoming...." but i forget (ill prolly remember later and be like dANG it, i remember now)

[kavaris]

@Mellowmarsh I think everyone retired for the morning / night... After the round of crazy we all went through?i feel like we really satisfied the world for the next... 5 days or so  Or hey, they are all dreaming a great dream of maybe like ... native american spiritual type stuff (my guess), A native american dream-like theyve never dreampt before! (i wish i had dreams like that... hence im not asleep)

[Mellowmarsh]

@kavaris Maybe their lips are moving but no one can hear what they are saying. 

[Mellowmarsh]

1 hour ago, kavaris said:

i see grateful dead, i *click* grateful dead.

Oh yeah what a coincidence I’ve just seen GD too lol

 

I see dead people. That’s a good one isn’t it?

[kavaris]

20 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Oh yeah what a coincidence I’ve just seen GD too lol

 

I see dead people. That’s a good one isn’t it?

Ya. it is... Oh yeo... you wont believe this..but now like...  i feel like "i" have to go to a different section too now, for a diff reason ... specifically the section for a mental health episodes, As thisll sound strange..... But i literally just heard Megatron's voice from transformers in my head... nd it said "..... ... ... ..... ....." i dont wanna reveal it, cause it was posed as a question and deeply personal to me, And now its like... uhh i might have to call my mental health specialist.

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[Mellowmarsh]

2 minutes ago, kavaris said:

Ya. it is... Oh yeo... you wont believe this..but now like...  i feel like "i" have to go to a different section too now, for a diff reason ... specifically the section for a mental health episodes, As thisll sound strange..... But i literally just heard Megatron's voice from transformers in my head... nd it said "..... ... ... ..... ....." i dont wanna reveal it, cause it was posed as a question and deeply personal to me, And now its like... uhh i might have to call my mental health specialist.

That’s another coincidence. In the documentary there’s a clip from Disneys “Tron” movie. 

[Breakingthewall]

I’ve seen it; it’s interesting, same that other about publicity of the same author, but I do think there is more stability and "normalization" now than there ever was before.

If you take a slice of human history. say, from 1700 to 1900, and look at what was happening everywhere (in China, Europe, the Americas, Africa), what you see is constant chaos with pockets of order. In China for example, in 1850 a guy who said that was the son of God and the young brother of Jesus organized a rebellion where 30 million died. Extreme convulsions have been a constant. Now we have technology and nukes and things seems more "normalized", because they are absolute limits. Without them, world would be like Warhammer 

[Breakingthewall]

5 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Watching the documentary made me think about how some humans are like cancer cells just hell bent on destroying their host. 
Such is the nature of life. I’ve heard many people say they think humans are like cancer cells. Most humans are normal cells thank God.

 

 

The essential quality of life is proliferation. At a certain point, life evolves into systems that kill other systems to obtain energy, and that is where the party begins.

The essence of evolution is total war. There is only one law: survive or die. Anything goes in this war: speed, poison, traps, cunning, size, concealment. The sole objective is to kill so as not to die. Even so, most species go extinct; others take their place, only to be wiped out by another, more efficient system.

At some point, the symbolic mind emerges, evolving outside of genetic matter at a pace millions of times faster, and it’s game over. In the absurdly short span of 200,000 years, a geological blink of an eye, this mind becomes the one that sets the rules. Soon, it will dominate matter, biology, the laws of the cosmos, and reality itself, because it is reality itself, happening as a symbolic mind. 

[VeganAwake]

14 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

I’ve heard many people say they think humans are like cancer cells. Most humans are normal cells thank God.

So a human labels and creates a concept called cancer cells and then believes itself to be that concept 🤔 

[Mellowmarsh]

11 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

The sole objective is to kill so as not to die. Even so, most species go extinct; others take their place, only to be wiped out by another, more efficient system.

At some point, the symbolic mind emerges, evolving outside of genetic matter at a pace millions of times faster, and it’s game over. In the absurdly short span of 200,000 years, a geological blink of an eye, this mind becomes the one that sets the rules. Soon, it will dominate matter, biology, the laws of the cosmos, and reality itself, because it is reality itself, happening as a symbolic mind. 

I’ve always thought about that idea too. It does very much look like evolution is driven only for the sole purpose of optimum efficiency and is goal oriented to producing the most intelligent functioning species ever. Probably a species that resembles something with alien consciousness. But then I watched a video on why outer space is so quiet and devoid of contact by other life forms, it’s because they think these other life forms evolved to be so advanced that they eventually collapsed in on themselves, wiping themselves out. I see the same thing happening here on earth as evolution pushes for transhumanism and ever more complex systems of AI technology that will eventually take over the entire planet.

 

But yeah, nothing lasts forever, as they say, even the universe itself will disappear in either a heat death or big rip so I’ve heard. Then it’ll go all dark cold and quiet again, and maybe never respawn ever again. This universe could have been just a one off occurrence for all we know. 

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[Mellowmarsh]

9 minutes ago, VeganAwake said:

So a human labels and creates a concept called cancer cells and then believes itself to be that concept 🤔 

Yes that’s right, belief has a strong foothold upon the human mind. How is anything possible to exist without first knowing a single concept?