I Told the Girl I liked that I like Escorts

[TheGod]

7 hours ago, eos_nyxia said:

Yep! I'm saying that a guy telling me that he has visited escorts doesn't really bother me by itself, but his motives for going matter. I mean I'm Canadian myself so I get the issue with directness. If anything, it's a curiosity if it's an unconventional choice. (I get very curious about why people do the things they do.)

I'm also saying that I've thought about using escort/ sex worker services myself in the past too. Both men and women for different reasons, since I am not straight. 

Oooh now I got it !

See, I'm so bad with understanding Canadian women  

Now I am curious to know how would you use men and women escorts? What would be the difference?

[LordFall]

It's quite common for couples to hire an escort for threesomes since most of them don't know how to pick up women out and about. 

I think the fun would come from hanging out with your girl and trying to pick up single bi women in the wild but for more inexperienced people the escort threesome option still adds some spice to their love life. 

@Inliytened1 I hadn't but I looked it up. The US is pretty backwards, the most overly sexualized society on earth built on a puritan backbone. They should legalize and regulate prostitution and weird cases like this wouldn't pop up.

It's why I think OnlyFans is a clear proof of societal progress unlike what most people say about it. It empowers individuals to provide a clear service to the marketplace and makes the whole thing regulated, taxed and reduces abuse of sex workers by a lot.

Also the Andrew Tate trafficking case should hopefully bring light to the strange coercive ways pimps trap women into sex work against their will and take advantage of them. 

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[Inliytened1]

29 minutes ago, LordFall said:

It's quite common for couples to hire an escort for threesomes since most of them don't know how to pick up women out and about. 

I think the fun would come from hanging out with your girl and trying to pick up single bi women in the wild but for more inexperienced people the escort threesome option still adds some spice to their love life. 

@Inliytened1 I hadn't but I looked it up. The US is pretty backwards, the most overly sexualized society on earth built on a puritan backbone. They should legalize and regulate prostitution and weird cases like this wouldn't pop up.

It's why I think OnlyFans is a clear proof of societal progress unlike what most people say about it. It empowers individuals to provide a clear service to the marketplace and makes the whole thing regulated, taxed and reduces abuse of sex workers by a lot.

Also the Andrew Tate trafficking case should hopefully bring light to the strange coercive ways pimps trap women into sex work against their will and take advantage of them. 

Couldn't agree more on legalizing it in the US.  It's legal in Nevada i believe, but I haven't tried a brothel out there just yet. Adding to bucket list.

But as for OnlyFans I have heard it's a total scam. Guys just pay for AI at this point and get milked out of their life savings thinking their talking to someone who hasn't logged in since 2024.

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[LordFall]

5 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Couldn't agree more on legalizing it in the US.  It's legal in Nevada i believe, but I haven't tried a brothel out there just yet. Adding to bucket list.

But as for OnlyFans I have heard its a total scam. Guys just pay for AI at this point and get milked out of their life savings thinking their talking to someone who hasn't logged in since 2024.

There is some deception involved as some creators market it as a personal connection to them while it's really handled by a bot farm or dudes in the Philippines trained with scripts.

Conceptually though it's a cutting edge innovation to sex work. Gives the creators ownership over their brands and for the customers you pay a cheap price for access to sexuality. I've paid like $15 to see a girl I know naked when she started an OnlyFans, great deal I'm a satisfied customer. 

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[Inliytened1]

3 minutes ago, LordFall said:

There is some deception involved as some creators market is as a personal connection to them while it's really handled by a bot farm or dudes in the philippines trained with scripts.

Conceptually though it's a cutting edge innovation to sex work. Gives the creators ownership over their brands and for the customers you pay a cheap price for access to sexuality. I've paid like $15 to see a girl I know naked when she started an Onlyfans, great deal I'm a satisfied customer. 

Too creepy for me. So..I'm old. Did i mention that? 😳 You know how this stuff started? Guys calling these 900 numbers and whacking off to a girl on the phone.  At least back then it was her! 25 cents per minute! 😀

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[LordFall]

Yeah phone sex operator sounds like a wild job to have. I think it's cool, people get their needs met in different ways. Both the customers and the workers that don't fit the traditional corporate world. 

I know a few strippers, they're interesting people to talk to. One of them went to the university of Toronto the top school in Canada and found mainstream society too restrictive and now she posts stripper content on Instagram 

https://www.instagram.com/p/DchMl4hOjKr/

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[Inliytened1]

4 minutes ago, LordFall said:

Yeah phone sex operator sounds like a wild job to have. I think it's cool, people get their needs met in different ways. Both the customers and the workers that don't fit the traditional corporate world. 

I know a few strippers, they're interesting people to talk to. One of them went to the university of Toronto the top school in Canada and found mainstream society too restrictive and now she posts stripper content on Instagram 

https://www.instagram.com/p/DchMl4hOjKr/

Funny story.  I so loved stripping that I had Stacy,  different one, my first Stacy, strip. I literally asked her to try it. And she was so in love with me she did it. She applied for the job and they had her on the pole.  She had short hair at the time so I had her get a wig. Man you are bringing out the memories.  Anyway it was awesome seeing her try the pole. Ultimately she didn't like it. But just the fact that she did it for me was pretty cool.  And I was the only customer because it was the rehearsal.  I don't think she ever went on stage in front of guys.

[LordFall]

Yes, stripping showcases very deep psychology about human sexuality and the power of the tease. Strippers are also used as an economic indicator of recession lmao

 

9 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Funny story.  I so loved stripping that I had Stacy,  different one, my first Stacy, strip. I literally asked her to try it. And she was so in love with me she did it. She applied for the job and they had her on the pole.  She had short hair at the time so I had her get a wig. Man you are bringing out the memories.  Anyway it was awesome seeing her try the pole. Ultimately she didn't like it. But just the fact that she did it for me was pretty cool.  And I was the only customer because it was the rehearsal.  I don't think she ever went on stage in front of guys.

What were you looking to get out of it? I guess adding some male competition to your relationship can make it more exciting but I heavily dislike the idea of my women using their sexuality for the benefit of other men. 

[Inliytened1]

4 minutes ago, LordFall said:

Yes, stripping showcases very deep psychology about human sexuality and the power of the tease. Strippers are also used as an economic indicator of recession lmao

 

What were you looking to get out of it? I guess adding some male competition to your relationship can make it more exciting but I heavily dislike the idea of my women using their sexuality for the benefit of other men. 

Would you date a stripper? It's the same thing. Hey..aren't you the open relationship guy? So why would this bother you? But I agree.. Probably later on i would have stopped her.   I don't like other guys hands on my woman.  You can look though.  The money was enticing as we were young.  And again..the pole..damn.

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[LordFall]

6 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Would you date a stripper? It's the same thing. Hey..aren't you the open relationship guy? So why would this bother you? But I agree.. Probably later on i would have stopped her.   I don't like other guys hands on my woman.  You can look though.  The money was enticing as we were young.  And again..the pole..damn.

Sure, casually. If we got serious I would expect her to quit that job and I would integrate her into my business endeavours. I believe in polyamorous arrangements more than open relationships. Dating multiple people at once to form a polycule, not so much just fucking random strangers all the time.

 The energy of the people in the relationship should mostly be used to benefit the people inside of the relationship not random strangers. 

[Inliytened1]

5 minutes ago, LordFall said:

Sure, casually. If we got serious I would expect her to quit that job and I would integrate her into my business endeavours. I believe in polyamorous arrangements more than open relationships. Dating multiple people at once to form a polycule, not so much just fucking random strangers all the time.

 The energy of the people in the relationship should mostly be used to benefit the people inside of the relationship not random strangers. 

Well wait.  So..let's get the rules straight.  Can she fuck other guys in your model? Or is it just group sex.  And if it is group sex can she fuck other guys? 

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[LordFall]

Each poly couples comes up with their own rules and soft or hard boundaries. The main rule of monogamy is don't fuck other people but polyamory is way more complex than that. Some people do you can fuck other people but don't tell me about it, some people fuck others together, etc.

It's hard for me to imagine what I'm gonna land on without actually talking about it with the people I'm gonna date. I plan to fuck many women as I travel the world over the next few years so expecting long-term companions I have to only fuck me seems a bit hypocritical. I'm also bisexual so if I had a polycule where the submissive males in it fucked the women that I was also dating that would be cool for me.

The random dudes aspect profiting from my women's energy and not contributing much thus energy leaking out of the system is my main concern. Like a dude paying alimony to his ex wife for her to spend it on her new boyfriend type of thing.

If one of my girlfriends had a random boyfriend that she really liked and was fucking a few times a year while being mostly part of my polycule that wouldn't bother me much though, as long as she's happy and contributing to my life. 

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[Inliytened1]

43 minutes ago, LordFall said:

Each poly couples comes up with their own rules and soft or hard boundaries. The main rule of monogamy is don't fuck other people but polyamory is way more complex than that. Some people do you can fuck other people but don't tell me about it, some people fuck others together, etc.

It's hard for me to imagine what I'm gonna land on without actually talking about it with the people I'm gonna date. I plan to fuck many women as I travel the world over the next few years so expecting long-term companions I have to only fuck me seems a bit hypocritical. I'm also bisexual so if I had a polycule where the submissive males in it fucked the women that I was also dating that would be cool for me.

The random dudes aspect profiting from my women's energy and not contributing much thus energy leaking out of the system is my main concern. Like a dude paying alimony to his ex wife for her to spend it on her new boyfriend type of thing.

If one of my girlfriends had a random boyfriend that she really liked and was fucking a few times a year while being mostly part of my polycule that wouldn't bother me much though, as long as she's happy and contributing to my life. 

Gotcha.  Sorry I got a phone call.  Yeah im just trying to wrap my mind around this whole dynamic.  I mean..you want multiple partners but yet you don't want them to do certain things.  Like you said, it gets tricky.  But..I am totally in favor of it.  I think monogamy is a complete failure on multiple levels.

Edited 47 minutes ago by Inliytened1

[LordFall]

7 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Gotcha.  Sorry I got a phone call.  Yeah im just trying to wrap my mind around this whole dynamic.  I mean..you want multiple partners but yet you don't want them to do certain things.  Like you said, it gets tricky.  But..I am totally in favor of it.  I think monogamy is a complete failure on multiple levels.

I'm more systematic than most. I like systems and rules so I'm heavily drawn to particularly building a BDSM polycule and having strict protocols involved with rewards, funishments and punishments involved.

For example now with my newfound interest in fashion picking my girlfriends' outfits daily is gonna be clearly a protocol I'm pulled into. Other ones are journaling based protocols and some more sex related stuff I'll leave out of it for the delicate minds on the forum lol 

That may not appeal to everyone but I think it's important to familiarize yourself with the different models of relationships that are out there and build your custom dream relationship instead of accepting the cookie cutter serial monogamy mainstream model.

 

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[Inliytened1]

@LordFall no matter how you slice it...you are not gonna be able to avoid feelings.  Feelings for a person will be involved.  That's what makes polygamy so hard.  But monogamy doesn't work either because we all want to fuck other people.

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[LordFall]

Of course, feelings are important and of course polyamorous relationships will invoke stronger feelings in both directions than a vanilla monogamous relationships.

Usually people in poly that hook up with others outside of their main partner have certain rules they follow like they check in a certain amount of times and they either don't allow sleepovers or do depending on the couples.

For me being able to depend on the individual is the most important if I'm gonna intertwine my life intimately with others. So if I had multiple girlfriends and one of them told me upfront she has some type of feelings for another dude and wants to go hookup with him and keeps up communication throughout the process and tells me after hey that was awesome, not gonna see him again or hey that was awesome I wanna keep seeing him or hey that was awesome, I'm breaking up with you to go date him that's all fine with me as long as I'm not in the dark anxious about what's going on. 

This is why in general poly couples have much stronger communication and emotional awareness than monogamous couples because there are more layers to navigate and negotiate in their relationships. 

Edited 16 minutes ago by LordFall

[Inliytened1]

8 minutes ago, LordFall said:

Of course, feelings are important and of course polyamorous relationships will invoke stronger feelings in both directions than a vanilla monogamous relationships.

Usually people in poly that hook up with others outside of their main partner have certain rules they follow like they check in a certain amount of times and they either don't allow sleepovers or do depending on the couples.

For me being able to depend on the individual is the most important if I'm gonna intertwine my life intimately with others. So if I had multiple girlfriends and one of them told me upfront she has some type of feelings for another dude and wants to go hookup with him and keeps up communication throughout the process and tells me after hey that was awesome, not gonna see him again or hey that was awesome I wanna keep seeing him or hey that was awesome, I'm breaking up with you to go date him that's all fine with me as long as I'm not in the dark anxious about what's going on. 

This is why in general poly couples have much stronger communication and emotional awareness than monogamous couples because there are more layers to navigate and negotiate in their relationships. 

I can tell you right now, being with both types, that it will only work with certain personalities.   Those personalities will have no problem with anything.  Not checking in. Nothing. They will be fine with it.  If you have to check in you're not the right personality type for this type of relationship.  Because I've been with swingers and non-swingers and they are completely different personality types.  So if it's all one type I think you don't need that many rules if any.  Will people get upset with some feelings coming up? Yeah..but it will be mild.

Edited 8 minutes ago by Inliytened1

[LordFall]

6 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

I can tell you right now, being with both types, that it will only work with certain personalities.   Those personalities will have no problem with anything.  Not checking in. Nothing. They will be fine with it.  If you have to check in you're not the right personality type for this type of relationship.  Because I've been with swingers and non-swingers and they are completely different personality types.  So if it's all one type I think you don't need that many rules if any.  Will people get upset with some feelings coming up? Yeah..but it will be mild.

Yeah could be, idk my main interest is mostly in closed polycules and threesomes with outside girls and my main chicks. I meant more like if one of my girls wants to try it out with an old flame and then decide if she wants to stay in the polycule or back to him.

I don't think I would mesh with a woman that specifically likes seeing other men regularly, sounds like too much of an extroverted hedonist for me. I tend to like more introverted women that have a deep relationship with themselves, probably are sapiosexuals and are looking for dominant man. 

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[Inliytened1]

2 minutes ago, LordFall said:

Yeah could be, idk my main interest is mostly in closed polycules and threesomes with outside girls and my main chicks. I meant more like if one of my girls wants to try it out with an old flame and then decide if she wants to stay in the polycule or back to him.

I don't think I would mesh with a woman that specifically likes seeing other men regularly, sounds like too much of an extroverted hedonist for me. I tend to like more introverted women that have a deep relationship with themselves, probably are sapiosexuals and are looking for dominant man. 

Well..you haven't had a threesome yet correct? I can tell you it's all it's cracked up to be and then some.