Lindsay Clancy -Mother of 3 kills her kids during psychotic episode

[Carl-Richard]

1 hour ago, Basman said:

Why would I think that's acceptable? stupid accusation. 

Like, dude. 4k someone shooting people, Columbine style. There are cases where the evidence is overwhelming, but your cherry picking one that supports your point. Zero doubt that Breivik killed massacred people, or Shoko Asahara bio terrorism.

The issue is you want to point to individual cases and paint like an intuitive picture of "surely this would be very very reasonably true", while the legal system, in the case of the death penalty, has always and probably will always use concrete standards and rules that can be applied to each case individually. If you can't provide that, we can't know whether your intuitive idea of a legal system is even possible or if it doesn't already exist somewhere.

The job would be much easier if you could say "yes I would vote for the death penalty in this country with this legal system". Right now, your position is essentially "I'm somehow not satisfied with current legal systems and would want a better one but I don't know how". And that makes it harder to say how much you would "accept" innocent lives being lost (we already know you do accept them with "basically 100%", as basically 100% is not equal to actually 100%, unless you want to walk back that statement). And no, Breivik or Columbine is not 100% (unless you have an argument for that). At most close to 100%.

 

1 hour ago, Basman said:

You just can't fathom a generalistic point it seem. 

I'm just trying to explore whether you have thought through your point to any significant degree. Because if you accuse liberals of not being serious about serious crimes, I would expect some serious thought into the policies for such crimes. If you don't have that, you're perhaps not being very serious. At least "no death penalty under any circumstance" is a clear policy position.

Edited 2 hours ago by Carl-Richard