God doesn’t sleep.

[Someone here]

Note: God is obviously not a “he.”

 

God doesn’t sleep because God is always aware. God is all-seeing, which means God sees everything. God is all-hearing, which means God hears everything. God is all-knowing, which means God knows everything. God is all-pervading and exists everywhere and everywhen.

 

God is alive. Humans are also alive. But God’s life is the actual independent life because it is self-sustaining. God doesn’t depend on or need anything external to Himself to make Him alive. Whereas a human needs oxygen 24/7 and needs water and food. And even then, the human will die because it can’t sustain itself forever. As soon as a baby is born, it starts dying slowly.

 

God is the only thing which could be rightfully said to be truly ALIVE because His life is self-sustaining and doesn’t need external resources to support it constantly. The second reason is because He will never die. That which is truly alive is that which will never die—which is God, not a human.

 

Physics, till this day and age, doesn’t know why the universe doesn’t disappear into nothingness immediately for no reason. What sustains it? Well, the answer is that God does. God holds the fabric of space and time together with His will such that it doesn’t go “poof” just like that. And this doesn’t cost Him energy or effort because He is all-powerful and He does anything He wants through sheer will. If He wants to create a universe, He thinks it up, snaps His fingers, and there it is. That’s the mechanism by which God creates.

 

A human needs God, but God doesn’t need anything. God doesn’t need anything because He is the wealthiest being ever. Why? Because all of existence is His property and possession. I possess a car or a house or money. But God possesses everything, including my car, my house, and my money. In fact, I don’t even possess anything. Nothing is truly mine because one day I will lose everything I possess. So I actually possess nothing. And God possesses everything.

 

God is rich. The richest. If you want to be the richest being ever, you have to stop being human and become God. When you become God, you possess all that there is.

 

I’m aware. God is aware. I can see. God can see. I can hear. God can hear.

 

But my awareness and sight and hearing aren’t complete because I fall asleep. But God never sleeps. God is always awake. Always aware of everything. Always knowing everything. Always seeing everything. Always hearing everything.

 

But I fall asleep. Deep sleep is a temporary death. Humans fear death because humans fear nonexistence. In deep sleep, no forms exist. Not even darkness or silence. Nothing at all. That’s a lack.

 

God doesn’t sleep because if He slept even for a second, the whole universe would disappear because the only reason the universe doesn’t disappear is because God sustains it with His will.

 

But doesn’t God feel tired from not sleeping?

 

Why do we sleep? Because we feel tired of being aware. But why is being aware for 18 hours or more tiresome? Because our awareness is limited. And because we are mortal.

 

A day is a metaphor for a lifetime. You wake up in the morning refreshed and energized. You are born as a baby and a child with vitality. Then, as the day goes on, you increasingly get tired, and then you go to bed to die temporarily, or sleep. Likewise, you grow older and get more and more tired until you are so tired that you die and disappear.

 

But God is always absolute awareness. Never sleeps and never dies without getting tired.

 

If you want to never get tired and never experience death, you must stop being human and become God.

 

[Inliytened1]

What happens if God gets tired and forgets the universe? Better yet does the universe exist independent of your mind? Or does the mind dictate the universe? Your mind.  Afterall if you would cease to exist would there be a universe? So his efforts are via your body right now.  

Edited 7 hours ago by Inliytened1

[Someone here]

8 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

What happens if God gets tired and forgets the universe?

The answer is simply that it’s impossible for a perfect ,all-powerful being to get tired .

but for argument’s sake, if God lost consciousness even for a microsecond , the entire universe will collapse or ceases to exist.  I swear . I’m dead serious. 
 

12 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Better yet does the universe exist independent of your mind? Or does the mind dictate the universe? Your mind.  Afterall if you would cease to exist would there be a universe? 
 

there is no such a thing as a “mind “. Show it to me . It has no form or actual existence. The misunderstanding happens because we assume that our thinking processes and constant state of daydreaming ,talking to ourselves, imagining , dreaming etc has a generator entity which we call the mind . But there is no such thing in reality . 
we also assume that the mind is in the head . We assume the self is in the head or the face or behind eyes . Simply because most of the fives senses are located only in the head : the eyes for sight , the ears for hearing , the nose for smelling , the mouth for tasting . Whereas the touching sense is spread equally across your skin all over your body . So we think of ourselves as the mind or the ego which lives in the head or the face .  If your eyes and ears were located at your feet , you would think the mind is in your feet . 

the universe exists because God created it . The mechanism by which god creates is through direct manifestation without needing anything else . 

this particular universe before your eyes appears physical , material , etc call it whatever you want . 
but the universe could have been mental like a dream . 
the nature of God itself is beyond physical vs mental .  It’s 100% ineffable.  

 

 

[Jirh]

Sounds very Sufi.

Are you secretly going to the mosque? 

[Someone here]

1 minute ago, Jirh said:

Sounds very Sufi.

Are you secretly going to the mosque? 

My own contemplation + insights I learned from Leo+ some knowledge about God from the Quran + AI editing my terrible punctuation. 

[Inliytened1]

14 minutes ago, Someone here said:

The answer is simply that it’s impossible for a perfect ,all-powerful being to get tired .

ineffable.  

 

 

And I could philosophize the opposite.  That a perfect being must incorporate tiredness.  So, that's simple to debunk.

As for mind I mean awareness. You are avoiding my direct question intentionally.  Saying the universe exists because God created answers nothing.  Even less than what I said.

[Jirh]

@Someone here How do you reconcile that God is something more than you with Leo's "God is you"?

 

3 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

And I could philosophize the opposite.  That a perfect being must incorporate tiredness.  So, that's simple to debunk.

Nice 

 

[Inliytened1]

4 minutes ago, Jirh said:

@Someone here How do you reconcile that God is something more than you with Leo's "God is you"?

 

Nice 

 

In truth God could be a lazy mofo.  He has to leave laziness open otherwise he wouldn't be God. So he must incorporate all of it.  Why the fuck else would rapists exist. 

[Someone here]

1 minute ago, Inliytened1 said:

And I could philosophize the opposite.  That a perfect being must incorporate tiredness.  So, that's simple to debunk.

Are you saying for perfection to be truly perfection it has to include imperfection within itself ? Am I understanding you correctly?

4 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

As for mind I mean awareness. 

No . Be precise.  mind or awareness? They are not the same thing . Mind is a concept and I explained to you how illusory it is.

so your question does the physical world exist independently from my awareness? 
yes it does . 
when you close your eyes… the screen doesn’t cease to exist.

8 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

.  Saying the universe exists because God created answers nothing.  Even less than what I said.

The universe exists . 
the universe is contingent.

therefore the perfect necessary being (God) exists .

you can know that .

the every essence of God is itself is impossible  to answer because it’s prior to definition, language, thought , forms, distinctions etc. knowing must dissolve into being . Even God doesn’t know what God is. Because there is no knower and known . It just is God . 

[Someone here]

9 minutes ago, Jirh said:

How do you reconcile that God is something more than you with Leo's "God is you"?

God is more than me because I (the human being typing these words) can’t move a mountain or create a fucking insect on the street .

God is also me because creation does not possess existence independently it receives or “borrows” its existence from God. Where else would it come from ? 

 

[Inliytened1]

3 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Are you saying for perfection to be truly perfection it has to include imperfection within itself ? Am I understanding you correctly?

 

That's correct.  Infinity. 

 

4 minutes ago, Someone here said:

 

No . Be precise.  mind or awareness? They are not the same thing . Mind is a concept and I explained to you how illusory it is.

so your question does the physical world exist independently from my awareness? 
yes it does . 
when you close your eyes… the screen doesn’t cease to exist.

 

 

How do you know it does? Because you say so? It cannot be validated by you, because you is all you have

6 minutes ago, Someone here said:

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the every essence of God is itself is impossible  to answer because it’s prior to definition, language, thought , forms, distinctions etc. knowing must dissolve into being . Even God doesn’t know what God is. Because there is no knower and known . It just is God . 

Exactly.  But for that very same reason God must know what it is.

In the end you cannot escape everything turning into itself. Knowing and not knowing.  It will just depend on you.  Because maybe you are God. So knowing God would be to know yourself. As well as not knowing.

[Someone here]

6 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

How do you know it does? Because you say so? It cannot be validated by you, because you is all you have

I prefer leaving this point as far as this topic goes . It’s definitely a challenging topic and I’m not going to claim I know the answer with 100% certainty.

8 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

In the end you cannot escape everything turning into itself. Knowing and not knowing.  It will just depend on you.  Because maybe you are God. So knowing God would be to know yourself. As well as not knowing.

I totally agree but the conclusion here is exactly what i said . Logic breaks . Duality collapses .  But thinking and reasoning only works through distinctions and me and you just agreed that distinctions collapse regarding God and we must embrace paradox .

[Inliytened1]

20 minutes ago, Someone here said:

I prefer leaving this point as far as this topic goes . It’s definitely a challenging topic and I’m not going to claim I know the answer with 100% certainty.

 

It's not challenging at all given the evidence.  The evidence is that what is before you exists. What is independent of you, well.  That is precisely what it exists as.  Independent of you. Meaning it's a thought you think about.  That won't ever change.  Until eternity. You won't ever get to peak behind the scenes.  Peaking behind the scenes is the scenes. You can never chase down the existence of a non-solipsistic universe.  Try it. 

20 minutes ago, Someone here said:

 

I totally agree but the conclusion here is exactly what i said . Logic breaks . Duality collapses .  But thinking and reasoning only works through distinctions and me and you just agreed that distinctions collapse regarding God and we must embrace paradox .

If we are thrust into paradox than we have to embrace knowing as well.  God doesn't play dice.  I believe it was Einstein.  But he did not know how right he was.  And yet he does play dice. Because there is an element of randomness that must be tossed in.

Edited 5 hours ago by Inliytened1

[Someone here]

12 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

It's not challenging at all given the evidence.  The evidence is that what is before you exists. What is independent of you, well.  That is precisely what it exists as.  Independent of you. Meaning it's a thought you think about.  That won't ever change.  Until eternity. You won't ever get to peak behind the scenes.  Peaking behind the scenes is the scenes. You can never chase down the existence of a non-solipsistic universe.  Try it. 

If we are thrust into paradox than we have to embrace knowing as well.  God doesn't play dice.  I believe it was Einsrein.  But he did not know how right he was.  And yet he does play dice. Because there is an element of randomness that must be tossed in.

1) all of existence is myself . All of us are expressions of the same energy.  For two human bodies to perceive the world simultaneously does not contradict oneness .

2)  I’m not sure what is your second point regarding randomness.

Edited 5 hours ago by Someone here

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, Someone here said:

1) all of existence is myself . All of us are expressions of the same energy.  For two human bodies to perceive the world simultaneously does not contradict oneness .

 

It doesn't but it assumes time and space. Time for things to be happening and space, though perhaps not visible for them to be in.  For God why would it be necessary. If you were creating the universe and you needed to get from point A to point B would you take the longer way around or would you take the straightest route. Its just as easy to create the appearance of an external universe than it would be to actually create it.

[Willy Phallicus]

You can never exhaust the mystery but like everything else in contrast-o-land the idea that you can't know or name God is you putting that impossible mystery there for you so you can find out that you can know - and you can call it whatever you want - God, mind, awareness, christ consciousness, nothing, everything, unity and every other name under the sun.

[Someone here]

@Inliytened1

 

Like I said, I’d rather not discuss solipsism right now. It’s a different topic for a different day. And  honestly , we’ve already beaten that dead horse into another dimension.

There doesn’t seem to be any real consensus on this forum. It’s basically 50% “solipsism is true” and 50% “solipsism is bullshit.” At this point..the topic has officially lost the plot..lost the trend and probably lost the will to live. 😂

Like, fuck solipsism honestly lol.It reminds me of masturbation. Half the planet says it’s good for you. the other half says it’s destroying your soul..testosterone..chakras and possibly the Roman Empire. Meanwhile the sensible answer is probably: dudes, just use some common sense. If you’re single and genuinely sexually frustrated and your boner doesn’t want to sleep like god lol then you need to relieve yourself then  go ahead and bust one and carry on with your life. But if you’re doing it eight times a day because you’re bored and it’s turning into an addiction that’s messing with your health and life maybe put the damn thing down and take a walk. 😂

Anywas this thread isn’t about solipsism.

The topic here is what sleep actually is because apparently that is the new trendy rabbit hole in online spiritual discourse.

if God is conceived is absolute, infinite, and eternally conscious, then God would not need sleep because God could never lose his consciousness because god is absolute indestructible consciousness with no opposite .

And this to me resolves one of the biggest existential problems and anxieties that humans worry about regarding fear of nonexistence ..

 Every night you tell yourself I’m going to stop being the person I was for a while and I trust that I’ll wake up again. But how is that known for certain?  …. See ?

 

 

[Inliytened1]

19 minutes ago, Someone here said:

@Inliytened1

 

Like I said, I’d rather not discuss solipsism right now. It’s a different topic for a different day. And  honestly , we’ve already beaten that dead horse into another dimension.

There doesn’t seem to be any real consensus on this forum. It’s basically 50% “solipsism is true” and 50% “solipsism is bullshit.” At this point..the topic has officially lost the plot..lost the trend and probably lost the will to live. 😂

Like, fuck solipsism honestly lol.It reminds me of masturbation. Half the planet says it’s good for you. the other half says it’s destroying your soul..testosterone..chakras and possibly the Roman Empire. Meanwhile the sensible answer is probably: dudes, just use some common sense. If you’re single and genuinely sexually frustrated and your boner doesn’t want to sleep like god lol then you need to relieve yourself then  go ahead and bust one and carry on with your life. But if you’re doing it eight times a day because you’re bored and it’s turning into an addiction that’s messing with your health and life maybe put the damn thing down and take a walk. 😂

Anywas this thread isn’t about solipsism.

The topic here is what sleep actually is because apparently that is the new trendy rabbit hole in online spiritual discourse.

if God is conceived is absolute, infinite, and eternally conscious, then God would not need sleep because God could never lose his consciousness because god is absolute indestructible consciousness with no opposite .

And this to me resolves one of the biggest existential problems and anxieties that humans worry about regarding fear of nonexistence ..

 Every night you tell yourself I’m going to stop being the person I was for a while and I trust that I’ll wake up again. But how is that known for certain?  …. See ?

 

 

Well then you are correct. He never sleeps.  Unconsciousness cannot exist other than by its definition. You must always be conscious. 

But this is a difference in worldviews because the materialist believes there is something outside of you. 

Edited 6 minutes ago by Inliytened1