The Bible is, unfortunately, the living Word of God.

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1 hour ago, Monster Energy said:

It is obvious that none of you understand what is being said. The Bible is the Word of God, but God is a sadist. He wanted the Bible to be so illogical that many people would struggle to see that it is truly His Word. But the Bible is the Word of God.

We need to come up with a plan to stop this God, which may be impossible, but we have to do something. So it doesn’t matter that you have booked a meditation session for next week. Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life

 

I think you need to take a break from YouTube. You're being very heavily influenced by people who's only goal is to exploit you.

[Ziran]

4 hours ago, Monster Energy said:

It is obvious that none of you understand what is being said. The Bible is the Word of God, but God is a sadist. He wanted the Bible to be so illogical that many people would struggle to see that it is truly His Word. But the Bible is the Word of God.

Dude, that's not what was in the video .

If this is what you want to discuss, then bring something illogical, from the Bible?

4 hours ago, Monster Energy said:

We need to come up with a plan to stop this God

And now you're sounding foolish.

[tvaeli]

Rely on this:

• Christ, as a God, saw everything metaphysically:
  • In fractal head, realm of god, there is one life, one heaven, one hell, one god, one decision. This is metaphysics.
  • God lives in singularity of Whole, in fractal topology head.
  • This is Yang.
• In realm of Buddha:
  • This is material, yin.
  • Everything repeats in fractal.
    • Christs vision can sometimes see it's just one, single, constant thing.
    • Buddha sees this projects to this fractal where we enlighten.
    • Buddha: Heavens, Hells repeat, locas on Earth, it agrees *in lower levels of fractals there are more gods*, which can be viking belief or old shamanism. Essentially, every spirit is god, because they are reflection of God.

I am Buddhist:

• God can speak in singulars very much.
• Yet it's not single reincarnation:
  • Every Gods reincarnation, Shiva Shakti Vishnu Krishna Chirst or Father God of Bible, so immortal to leave traces all around the world in same series of Bible.
  • Everybody who is against reincarnations after christ, is like who believes in muhammad but states there are no worldwide saints after muhammad: while Muhammad, by my own sight, confirmed *literally every saint and important king around the world which was seen by others*, while *Christ definitely only gave positive accounts to past saints and talked about his Father even in infinite past, not as someone who came once, or who is prisoned inside ancient Egipt, Israel and Rome and lacks mouth outside*.
    • I see God as recurring fractal.

Here:

• I see God's word as no-nonsense.
• I do not know limit of time, space and possibility:
  • It might be two persons at the same time, playing a presentation for God, they might be both god in various ways.
  • In the end: the message is important for buddhist, to confirm the truth.
    • Imagine a Catholic monk sitting in small room for months, doubting in God, to find the real proof. This is claim that one seeks actual reality, and it comes from it's empathic history.
    • Imagine Mohammad said: every single prophet in my past was true, and every single one after is false. Other nations used to see their prophets, but they will not.
      • It's like stating:
        • I'm Saint for the past.
        • I'm Satan for the future.
    • I cannot describe "religion" if he did not say like others - it's immortal God, not bound in Time and Space, represented for every being in Universe, the One for Who the Earth is Small, and Every Law is Limited - it's not about known, it's rather: if all stories about such immortal being are true, you did not get a glimpse.

I am Buddhist and here I ask:

• Did Sanskrit tell stories which metaphysically represent will of True Higher Being and God:
  • Yes.
• Did Bible do this:
  • Yes.
• Does every holy man do this:
  • Yes.

[Ziran]

On 8/10/2026 at 5:36 AM, Monster Energy said:

He wanted the Bible to be so illogical that many people would struggle

good-grief

On 8/10/2026 at 5:36 AM, Monster Energy said:

God is a sadist

Plot twist:  People are masochists

But seriously... Challenges based on logic and contradictions are almost always resolved by looking to the original language and applying the context which the critic removed.  One of the the most famous contradictions that's discussed online are the so-called "two different creations" in the first two chapters.  However, those contradictions disappear when the original text is checked. 

In chapter 1, in English, it appears that there are two contrasting and divergent statements of the origin of humanity.  However, these two chapters don't clash when read in the original language.  The reader has a completely different experience because, in Hebrew, the two chapters sharply distinguish , phonetically, between the word choices, in general, the inception "above" in the "heavens" in chapter 1, with the physical manifestation in particular, the cycle of life "below" on earth.  Also, in comparison, the Hebrew language in the original texts, is much closer to Chinese.  Each word possesses a concentrated valence which always requires many many more words in translation.  Because of this, the first verse, the opening of the book, is clumsy in any other language.  Naturally, there will be ceaseless debates regarding how to translate it, when the original text is ignored.  The solution is simple, not unlike any other inquiry, the best info comes from the original source, or as close as reasonable. 

There are websites with long lists of contradictions.  I've been through a few, top to bottom.  There are very few actual contradictions.  The Jewish critics focus on the "inscrutable" dual narratives that occur throughout the early story telling.  This, they believe, is conclusive evidence of multiple human authors, "none of it is holy".  There's an old theory about the authorship, the "Documentary Hypothesis" which is taught in the Reform and Conservative and increasing Orthodox congregations and seminaries.  But, the DH had many problems from the onset ( very late 1800s ).  In 2011, the last nail in the coffin, objective computer analysis, there are only 2 voices, not 4, in the text, which was rigorously asserted by the DH proponents.  But, this information is not publicized among the critics on youtube.  If anyone's curious, I'll share more.

The other accompanying criticism to illogic is the level of violence that the OT God inflicts.  The "Law" appears to be draconian and cruel to the natives, positioning one group over the others unfairly.  People read it in English and think that rape is condoned.  That girls are sold into slavery.  It's not like that, but, it takes patience to unpack the ancient text, include all the laws, not just the ugly ones, and most people don't have any interest in spending the time.

But for those that do?  Please refer to prior plot twist.  If people don't need the bible, and they're choosing it, is the God to blame?

Edited Tuesday at 06:35 PM by Ziran

[Ziran]

On 8/10/2026 at 5:36 AM, Monster Energy said:

the way, the truth, and the life

... none get to the father except by me.

Why?  

It's a palindrome.   The "way" is the reciprocal, in general, "above", in the heavens, to its compliment, the "life", the manifestation of Jesus' ministry, in particular, "below", on earth.  Truth in the middle, spelled in Hebrew is Aleph-Mem-Tav, the Aleph and the Tav are the first and last letters corresponding to "The Alpha and the Omega" standing at the border, like watch-posts, around the "Mem", which is energetically pouring blessing down like Mayim, "waters", which is spelled Mem-yud-Mem, which is another palindrome. 

Palindromes occur at various significant points in the text.  The obvious one is "I am in the Father and Father is in me."  However, there are others.  The book of John, in Greek, verse 1 is a clear palindrome.  Which harkens back to the first verse of Genesis, which is also a palindrome.  The book of Numbers, if I recall, begins with a palindrome as well as the book of Psalms. 

For the most famous one, to me, it's highly significant that when Jesus is quoted, he positions himself as the outer-layer.  

I am in the father AND the Father is in me.

( Jesus ( Father ( Jesus ) Father ) Jesus )

From this vantage, yes, no matter how a person approaches, from the left or the right, from the inner, from the outer, Jesus is the gatekeeper.  What is the original source for this?  Not surprisingly, the earliest extent record of this sort of messiah comes from 3rd Enoch, the prophecy of the Son-Of-Man, not from the OT.  And that's the connection that reconciles most confusion about the Christian bible, because, looking for Christ-Jesus, the Jewish Messiah, in the OT doesn't work.  That prophecy came from somewhere else.

Edited Tuesday at 07:12 PM by Ziran

[Ziran]

6 hours ago, Ziran said:

That prophecy came from somewhere else.

It's a prophecy about Jubilee.  During the Jubilee year, per scripture:  Lev 25:13

In the year of this jubilee you shall return every man to his ancestral possession

In 3rd Enoch, which was popular at that time, at Jubilee, there's a special angel, the Son-of-Man, which opens the gates of purgatory so that this verse is literally fulfilled.  And this explains the Son-Of-Man narrative.  In context, it's not illogical.
 

On 8/10/2026 at 5:36 AM, Monster Energy said:

the way, the truth, and the life

That reminds me.  Hopefully this will cover the last of the major complications, conundrums, confusing points in a broad manner.  

I suppose the last major criticism of the Bible as illogical that I see and hear a lot involves the Trinity.  It's difficult and illogical for us, as modern people, but it wouldn't have been difficult for the target audience of the Christian bible, at that time.  And this is the part that Jewish people, academics, publishers, etc, have suppressed over the years. 

At the time when Jesus would have been preaching, Jews had a common belief in angels and demons in addition to a God which is categorized as "The-Most-High".  By today's standards these ideas are bizarre to say the least.  Yes, it's idol-worship in all but the edge cases.  ... None the less, my ancestors, my people, believed and did some strange things.  For an individual to invoke, to become deeply inspired, within themselves, by one  or more of these angels ... or demons... was a thing.  We're not supposed to do it, but, they did it anyway.

There's an angel, in Jewish legend, named "Metatron" who is conjoined to another angel, its mate, "Shechinah".   When examined closely, it's true, contrary to the opinion of many, there is a strong Jewish base which supports the Gospel and the Trinity.  As a result, these ideas were suppressed and denied to exist. 

In special regard to whether or not the Trinity conceppt is illogical:  I'll admit.  This is complicated.  And it's in a language that's foreign to many.  But, the concepts themself are not difficult to describe or visualize.  Once that's done, the Trinity is not a problem at all.

Shechinah comes from the root word Shochain, "to dwell".  The Shechinah, the "divine presence", in Jewish legend, is credited with bestowing miracles, healing, and insight via the Ruach-HaKodesh, The-Holy-Spirit.   It's not known precisely where the name of its other half originates.  But, when its function is understood, then the name can be understood as well.   These two are, energetically, becoming three.  The underlying mechanism which permits this is the same manner of paradox which permits apprehension of a Trinity lacking cognitive dissonance.

Metatron in legend is referred to as the "Little YHVH", the Son-of-Man, the first of the angels, etc... Metatron is spelled:  Mem-Tet-Tet-Reish-Vav-Final-Nun. "מטטרון"  Etymologically, there is nothing to compare it to.  That's why there's no consensus on its root meaning, valence, origin.  Broken out:  the first letter is a prefix.  The last three are a common suffix, "diminutive" . The double-Tet "טט" in the middle is certainly the root, but, it's completely unique in the entire canon.  No other person, place, or thing, in Hebrew scripture possesses these two letters together.  So, there's no contextual basis to begin forming an opinion on the meaning of the root.

Metatron's function is "courier", but, it operates more like a turnstile. It flips, and inverts.  Like a pipe, or a tunnel, or a straw, that flips 180-degrees, taking from one side, below, and bringing it up above.  Then back again.  Top to bottom, bottom to top.  Instantaneously, it's simultaneously inverting-and-not.  If this function is considered, "a miraculous, wormhole, turnstile, courier service", flipping and inverting, ... the name can be understood.  See below, using block script from a scribe:

The Tet-Tet pairing "טט" is literally flipping and inverting, flipping and inverting.

Metatron's conjoined twin, the divine presence, rides on his metaphorical shoulders.  She is at the edges of the "exit ramp", so to speak.  She's at the lip of the pipe.  On both ends.  This seems illogical, but it isn't.  If the angelic courier is considered as a sphere, then, a single conjoined twin can enwrap itself completely around its spherical partner such that it is both above and below, simultaneously.  From the earth-bound, finite, perspective, gazing upwards at a literally infinite orb, one would only see the tip on the other-side, because the finite individual is being enveloped within the sphere.  Like looking at the knot on an inflated balloon , through the other-side of the balloon.

Because of this, even though it's all the same dwelling of divine presence, when considered in total, there is only one energetic principle in spite of how it appears from the finite, earth bound view.   But, because it would be a misnomer to call the divine presence as it exists beyond the material as a "dwelling", instead of Shechinah, the angel takes a different name, as the metaphorical crown "Keser", above and beyond. 

And that's the earliest extent version of a Trinity in the region.  It's called "Mercavah Mysticism".  Mercavah means "Chariot".  Metatron is written about metaphorically as a chariot which can be metaphorically constructed for ascension, or, one can catch a ride on the flip side in descent, go through hell, and then ride the metaphorical elevator back up.  Catching the downward flow was supposed to be easier.

This was prevailing accepted "common" knowledge at the time when Jesus was, theoretically ,walking the earth.  Jesus, though, according to the scriptures, at the end, made himself into a metaphorical chariot.  Instead of invoking the Son-Of-Man, he completely emptied himself and received The Will of God.  That's why no one in the Christian bible objects to invocation of Son-Of-Man.  They get upset when Jesus attempts to go beyond that, which is a quantum leap identical to the flipping and inverting of the divine presence as perceived through the other-side.

That last part reconciles the Trinity. Here's how.   

A triangular prism is unique among the others; because, when gazing at the flat face, both of the other two faces are seen within it, flipped and inverted, through the other-side, if it's perfectly clear and refined. But, when the prism is looked at from one of the edges, all one sees is the edge.  That's the way the trinity is logical.  It's a special relationship of three.  When all three sides are perfectly balanced, closed, and clear, the three are one included within each other.  See below: 

Below is the conventional way of looking at the Trinity.  While on earth, Jesus was connected to the other two, but only Jesus is proximal and present.  After Jesus' ministry, the "Spirit" replaced him, is still wholly and completed connected to "Spirit" and "Father", but only "Spirit" is proximal and present.  From this vantage, there's 3 distinct constituents, and only one is apparent.  The other two are hidden.

 

 

Below is another way of looking at it.  Here, the constituents are mapped to the faces of the triangle instead of at the points.  While on earth, one could see "the Father" and "the Spirit" within Jesus who had in an unprecedented manner emptied himself to receive the Will of The Most High.  In this way, all three, Father, Son, and Spirit are equally, consistently, one and not the same, which defies common logic, yet, it's true.  Classic paradox.

 

Philippians 2

5 Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus:
6 Who, existing in the form of God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped.
7 But emptied Himself taking the form of a servant, being made in human likeness.
8 And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself, and became obedient to death—even death on a cross.

Edited Wednesday at 01:09 AM by Ziran

[Inliytened1]

On 8/6/2026 at 3:54 PM, Monster Energy said:

The YouTube channel Revelations of Jesus Christ is living proof that the Bible is not just a fairy tale. Watch his most popular videos before you reply. Deep down, I know the Bible is just a fairy tale and that I am God, but after watching these videos, I know the Bible is God’s Word, and you will come to realize it too. This is probably the worst news for everyone on this forum, but I had to tell you all this.

 

There is definitely something holy and divine about the Bible.  But that is because it is the word of God, not because it contains the words of God.  Many stories have been told, but God will not be found there.  Yet, after enlightment, I recall feeling a certain divinity when gripping the book.  Unlik any other force I have felt.  The holiness.  It is there.  But do not be deceived.